Sustainable Energy takes a look at the ways hydrogen is being used to power vehicles and store energy.
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Solar Vs Hydrogen for future energy?
No Vs, it is: ” solar + Hydrogen”
Not vice, but using solar and wind and hydroelectric to produce hydrogen, …i think
Really it was a fascinating video on on hydrogen fuel as a zero emission technology 😘😘😘
i am a hydrogen belliver ..
Why?
@Colin Connelly Ignorance.
Why India a most populated country not taking Andros towards hydrogen vehicles?
because they do not make sense Energy Returned on Energy Invested
green hydrogren can be produced from nuclear . H2 in France is a great match with their 79% of their electrical power comes from nuclear.
Ridiculous! Electricity itself is a far more efficient use of nuclear power. turning that power into hydrogen is just stupid.
What is that mess on her head
Natural hair. You have a problem with it?
I’m just 15 but I’m a hidrogen believer too. I’m building my own hydrogen generator and compressor. I have a lot of plans to use hydrogen fuel cell as battery to my cellphone, hoverboard and in a few years my car too.
Don’t waste your time. Hydrogen is far from being suitable for household use.
Hydrogen gas can be inhaled or drinked in bubbled water to promote health in humanas, also Hydrogen Rich Water can be used for agriculture, pisciculture, etc
@Mario Cassinelli Do you want to buy a bridge??
Good on you never listen to the unbelievers they usually act out of jealousy
Cut or burned..?
Cute mobility market..
Gree n not blue?.
H2 won’t work. NH3 is the new H2. You can store 9658 kwh in a 1000 gallon tank (3.194 kwh/L NH3 x 3.78 L/gal x 1000 gal x 80% fill =9658 kwh) and that tank would cost $1500. Basically a common propane tank. A Li-ion battery costs $200/kwh. 9658 x 200 = $1,931,600. H2 is at least 6x more volume with tanks that are 10,000 psi vs 300 psi. 100 x in costs? Then there is the compression of it. Hydrogen embrittlement and on and on. Last, you can use many fuels with H2 fuel cells. My engine can use 5 fuels and NH3 as well as other electro fuels. Electro-fuels is the future. They are needed to replace oil. H2 does little to solve oil replacement tech. Waste of time.
So where can you buy a NH3 producing module from renewable energy or is it a dream like all the other ideas yet to defeat oil.
Awesome, love your stories here, finrlly some info. One can take as facts. Thx.
France is stubborn, when the earthquakes and tsunamis hit their nuclear power will poison the planet.
I think the ancients called radioactive fallout, wormwood. If you buy solar panels and make hydrogen you can sell it to the local station.
you do not make any sense at all. energy returned on Energy invested EROEI … BV make more sense
9:35 and 13:05: “Driving on air”???
Yes, unlike battery electric vehicles, fuel cell vehicles need the oxygen of the air.
But they don’t “drive on air”.
every single person who was interviewed explained the electrolysis process.. :’D
That guage where it only goes from 0 Hertz to 10 😉
Both battery based EVs & Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles will have a huge space & impact on Human Civilization as a whole.
Let’s not forget that still there are at least 3 different Fossil fuel (Petrol, Diesel & CNG) based Vehicles being operated in the World.
The future should be about 2 different fuel options for transportation such as Battery based EVs & Hydrogen fuel cells based vehicles.
Battery based EVs are a good option for Two-wheelers or City based limited transportation like Cars whereas Hydrogen Fuel cell based technologies is good for Large distance transportation vehicles like Trucks, Buses etc.
For more Car dependent Nations like US, Hydrogen based fuel cell technology is the option for Cars, Buses & Trucks.
Could also use Hydrogen to store Hydroelectric produced Energy
@Gammareign to balance the grid which happens usually every night when nobody is using electricity
@OffGrid Wanabe People don’t use electricity at night? Excuse me!
@Gammareign Well not as much is used at least in Ontario Canada where we dump electricity into the American grid to balance our grid and we do it free of charge.
@OffGrid Wanabe A major city like Toronto will use lots of electricity at night.
@Gammareign Sure but less than in the daytime, we export free electricity most night to the USA to balance the grid
I can not believe how much time, money, and knowledge is spent on hydrogen science when the hydro power system design research is abandoned like all of the energy available was gathered up using a turbine! Once you include the accelerated mass into a hydro turbine efficiency, the efficiency drops to less then 16% with perfect use of whats available. In reality its closer to 14%. That means if you do something that does not waste energy in accelerated mass you could increase the power out of elevated water up to six times! Now how much hydrogen can you make?
I dont know about that but, Hydrogen gas can be inhaled or drinked in bubbled water to promote health in humans, also Hydrogen Rich Water can be used for agriculture, pisciculture, etc
You put water in your tank . A small electrolizer in the car , that makes his own hydrogen can powered the electro motor . The whole process , right in your car . No hydrogen facilities needed anymore . Such a nice solution .
Where do you get the power to run the electrolyzer??
Check out HYSR, PLUG, FCEL, BLDP, etc, all are successful companies. Of the older technology of using fossil fuel gas has been the starting point but non fossil fuels based nanotechnology has arrived. HYSR is an excellent example. The competition between Hydrogen and Lithium or other such Batteries will work out in the marketplace.
They coexist currently as both are stepping away from the dirty energy. But the future is here, Green New deal is happening right now.
HYSR is really at the forefront of nanotechnology utilizing Photosynthesis like techniques to harvest hydrogen, to be used at the site.
They originated at the US CALIFORNIA, Santa Barbara, and now extended to the University of Iowa in Iowa city. We are very optimistic.
Thank you from ‘H2 Innovation Lab’ H2IL – technology for a green sustainable hydrogen future.
you are one of the 0.1% best technologies being offered to the world.
hydrogen is the only right variant for future. No other variant ! But we are developing approach, which is not exact now. There must be 2 waves for hydrogen : 1/BUILD HYDROGEN PRODUCTION FACTORIES ON SITES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY STATIONS. 2/ SMALL CARS NEED TO LOAD HYDROGEN BY EXCHANGE WHOLE COMPRESSED HYDROGEN BALLOONS.
We are wrong because we do not firstly build enough hydrogen production factories on sites of renewable energy stations. We are wrong because we are trying to build network of hydrogen loading stations, which are COMPLEX AND EXPENSIVE.
We must change our approach. We should use hydrogen as energy storage method for renewable energy stations first. Then we should load hydrogen for usual small cars by exchanging whole standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. So It is very simple and not expensive to make the global net of hydrogen supplying stations. Any normal mini shops can be a hydrogen supplying point by storing standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. We do not have to use liquid hydrogen, which is difficult to collect. But we can use compressed hydrogen gas, which is not so much different in weight by comparison with liquid hydrogen. Hydrogen is the best solution of energy storage for all energy stations now, for example, for nuclear energy stations, for renewable energy stations. Just install ready hydrogen production modules, and install independent hydrogen fuel cell modules in adjacent areas. Use compressed hydrogen gas at first time instead of liquid hydrogen.
And the last thing to notice is that, hydrogen is not more dangerous than other gases and petrol. Hydrogen has big energy storage capacity, but when burning hydrogen in accidents, IT DOES NOT CREATE ACOUSTIC DESTRUCTING WAVE TO ENVIRONMENTS. It means that hydrogen burning is less destructive than gasoline burning.
You are absolutely WRONG. Hydrogen production is massively energy intensive! if hydrogen is used from ANY source it is massively inefficient compared to Battery powered vehicles.
@Colin Connelly you showed that you do not understand hydrogen technology. Water electrolysis process has maximum useful energy exchange coefficient. No other chemical process, which has better useful energy exchange coefficient . HYDROGEN HAS ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT FOR ALL CHEMICAL PROCESSES. It means that ALL FUTURE BATTERIES WILL HAVE LESS ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY THAN HYDROGEN. The only real problem of hydrogen is STORAGING HYDROGEN. But if use balloons from composited materials to storage COMPRESSED HYDROGEN GAS, then we can solve this problem. Compressed hydrogen gas has weight density, which is not so much different from liquid hydrogen. I am assure that producing compressed hydrogen gas balloons is EASIER AND CHEAPER THAN PRODUCING POPULAR AA BATTERIES OR AAA BATTERIES. Hydrogen is the champion solution for storageing energy of energy stations on the earth now, include renewable energy plants, nuclear energy plants, nuclear fusion energy reactors. For example, collect and storage solar energy in summers to use storaged energy in winters warming , it must be ONLY HYDROGEN TECHNOLOGY.
Battery electric vehicles can exist together with hydrogen vehicles, but battery electric vehicles have less capacity, less power, longer charging time. If you try to drive hydrogen vehicles once, then you never want to drive battery electric vehicles any more, because hydrogen cars are powerful. If distribute hydrogen balloons as coca cola bottles anywhere , then hydrogen distributing and storageing will be no longer a problem, and any robots and veehicles and electric machines and drones should use hydrogen because of HYDROGEN MAXIMUM ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY AND HYDROGEN SUPPLYING BIG POWER
@Abstract Exchange you are talking absolute rubbish. I made hydrogen for nearly 20 years. The amount of ENERGY required the separate hydrogen from water is high. why do you not see free hydrogen floating around in the atmosphere? Because it bonds readily with other atoms. Very strong bonds. To break these bonds requires energy. . Presently electrolizers use 55kW hours of energy to make 1 kg of hydrogen. When that is transferred to a fuel cell and converted to electricity the losses in the conversion are presently around 40% at best . 1 kg of hydrogen thus is the energy equvalent of about 3-4 litres of diesel. Hydrogen is notoriously hard to store. . It is a tiny atom compared to a methane molecule or water for example. And unless very good engineering techniques are used you will have significant leakage. It takes a lot of water as well, and not just tap water. Any impurities will be deposited on the cathode or anode and result in an inefficient conversion. So you need good water purification techniques unless they develop new technologies. The more promising technologies for producing cheaper metal anodes and cathodes are still in the developmental stage and even they are only suggesting a fairly low increase in conversion efficiencies of about 15-20 percent.
It is most definitely NOT a champion solution. Reversable hydro storage is much, more efficient on a large scale and batteries are massively more efficient on a small scale. As I said in another comment. Hydrogen has a place possibly for large scale logistic solutions where an access to VERY cheap energy is available and where transport is minimal. Like industrial areas or ports.
I note that Honda has stopped development of the hydrogen car at this time. It would be absolutely stupid to use your household solar system to make hydrogen even if you consider that electricity free ( which it isn’t) Your Hydrogen car would need a solar panel array 10 times bigger than the average solar array to get anywhere near the amount of energy required for an average driver.
If you have any examples you can provide to support your claims please provide them. I can only assume you are a troll or a schill for the hydrogen industry if you fail to do so. The present push for hydrogen is very noticable on you tube. But most will lead you back to fossil fuel solutions, steam reformation and CCS (carbon capture and storage). These are NOT long term solutions and just an attempt in my view to provide fossil fuel companies a way to keep hold of the transport industry fueling dollar. An attempt that is already failing. My figures are not exact (I’m on holiday an away from a computer) but provide yours and where you got them from and we will continue the discussion.
Using excess electricity for hydrogen production is very inefficient. Very similar to Steam as an electricity generator. Hydrogen storage is much less efficient than battery storage, thus less expensive. Hydrogen may have uses but cars aren’t one of them. As a fuel for long distance transport or marine applications it will be a good transitional fuel. Did you Notice they don’t give you any figures as to the costs of energy??
Electricity is wasted every night when they dump the excess electricity that is not in demand to balance the grid why not find uses for this hydrogen production is only one way, in Canada we give away free to USA maybe we should use it for car charging or pumping water storage. We always just take the easy way out.
This is a complete corporate puff-piece of ‘journalism’. Shame on you, CNBC! You may as well just read-out a press-release from the fossil-fuel-hydrogen-extraction-industry!
That ‘interviewer’ is just a side-kick to that corporate fossil-gas-extraction-hack-person.
We do NOT have time to wait until 2050 for this technology to be made ‘sustainable’.
The truth is that the fossil-fuel-hack-industry wants to keep their earth-destroying business-model going for as long as possible. (As that guy mentioned ONCE: Hydrogen is presently extracted from Methane/ ‘natural’-gas.
Hydrogen has its applications in long-range-applications & is desperately needed there; ie. all oceanic-vessel-applications (goods-transport/shipping & Billionaires’ yachts), as well as long-haul-air-transport & -travel & Billionaires’ jets!
Battery-technology for short-/mid-range transport-applications is applicable NOW (ie. cars, busses, lorries) & costs a fraction of present hydrogen-technology!
Before loving hydrogen – make sure you understand Energy returned on energy invest (EROEI) as well as The second law of thermodynamics. 2nd law indicates that a Carnot engine operating between two given temperatures has the greatest possible efficiency of any heat engine operating between these two temperatures. Irreversible processes involve dissipative factors, which reduces the efficiency of the engine.
Came for the hydrogen, stayed for the hair
Proton Technologies is commercializing a new method, tested at the University of Calgary (Alberta, Canada) and in the field, to produce
pure hydrogen from oil wells with no CO2 or any greenhouse gas emissions. When hydrogen is used as a fuel the only emission
is clean water vapour. The following video documentary tells the story and present status. @
At commercial scale the University of Calgary estimates the hydrogen can be produced for somewhere between 10 cents to 50 cents per kilo-gram. The current retail price of hydrogen in California is over $10.00 per kilo-gram. Hydrogen produced by wind or solar electric generation has an actual true cost in the range of $3.00 to $6.00 per kilo-gram.
Using the new process, a large engineering firm is presently working on an engineering design to build a hydrogen production facility at
Proton Technologies’ oil well facilities in Saskatchewan, Canada that can produce 30,000 kg/day of hydrogen which could be shipped either by tube trailer (up to 1,300 kg) or liquid hydrogen trailer (4,800 kg), or to generator electric power right at the site where the hydrogen is produced. The second stage will increase the capacity to 300,000 kg/day. The new method can be used widely around the world and during the next 20 years has the potential to create enough low cost, ‘green’ hydrogen to replace coal, oil and natural gas as an energy source.
Electric power generation facilities fueled by very low cost ‘green’ hydrogen can reliably supply electric power 7×24, even when the sun is not shining and when the wind is now blowing.
Many hydrogen pipelines are already in use around the world. Hydrogen fuelled semi-trucks, buses, trains and ships are already in use, with many more on the way.
Nikola Motors in the is planning to hydrogen-powered semi trucks, and they presently have pre-orders for 7,000 trucks ($12B USD). The trucks
are very beautiful works of design art.
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A project in Alberta, Canada to build a fleet of hydrogen fuel-cell semi-trucks is in progress. Ballard (Vancouver B.C.) is supplying the hydrogen
fuel cells and a company is Quebec is building the electric drive train.
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Hyundai hydrogen-powered semi-trucks are shown in this article and are another example of beautiful works of design art.
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Cummins showcases hydrogen fueled semi trucks.
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Kenworth, Toyota, Hyundai and Volvo hydrogen fueled semi trucks.
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More information is available at Protons Technologies’ web site at @t
Information about new fuel cells is available at @t
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Those questions and answers seen highly scripted to me. Not a discussion but a written script.
freshwater is not sustainable, in future have shorted freshwater.. water filters from sea is very expensive.
In relation to electrolysis, seawater desalination is virtually for free. That’s not really a point that matters.
A seawater desalination plant of million dollars can desalinate enough water for billion-dollars-electrolysis plants.
The energy demand is even more negligible: Electrolysis costs more than thousand times the energy of seawater desalination.
And you can’t use freshwater directly anyway, there is always preprocessing necessary.
Figures: Seawater desalination by reverse osmosis: 2 to 4 kWh per m³ (~1000 kg) of water.
Production of 1 kg of hydrogen and 8 kg of oxygen from 9 kg of water by electrolysis: ~50 kWh.
use water for fuel is a dangerous for path of humanity in future cause shorted waters of increasing human race
Got interview for hydrogen engineer that’s why I’m here 🤣
Yes, let every moran ride their ovn hydrogen bomb
Why not fokus on use the electricity directly , without this inifficiency?
Hydrogen has to be one of the most inifficiency and dangerous battery ever..
Hindenburg anyone?
Answer: Because Oil Companies want to keep chasing technologies 20 years away so they can keep selling oil.
Yeah, yeah!! Still waiting!
Elon Musk pees in his pants.
No matter which energy source(or energy transfer medium) will dominate, one thing is certain, it’ll never be as cheap as fossil fuel.
You as cheap as the subsidized fossil fuel as they never clean up their mess.
@OffGrid Wanabe says:
“You as cheap as the subsidized fossil fuel as they never clean up their mess.’
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I’m not the topic of this video.
Anything to say about hydrogen energy?