Eight members of Pi Kappa Alpha at Bowling Green State University are facing charges ranging from felony involuntary manslaughter to misdemeanor hazing after authorities say they encouraged 20-year-old Stone Foltz and other pledges to drink an entire bottle of alcohol.
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WHITE kids….
As with you, I am hoping they were Black…. We are on the Same Page Right… I just assume because your Comment is clearly Racist… Maybe we can Hate Together… Do you want to Hate on other Ethnicities with me? Together…
@Randy Ross Joining those fraternity life is for losers anyhow .
@Randy Ross I mean the dead kid is white right?
White lives matter!
@Zoogz I beg your pardon????? I happened to have been in a fraternity. Lets compare all I have done in life now that I am middle aged as to what YOU have done and we will just see who the loser is in this instance.
Don’t care since white.
Cold blooded.
Choose love over hate. Don’t be a bigot!
Hazing is so yesterday. Don’t do it.
What a crazy thing to do.
@aa22 ZZ Yep! Because not dying young is crazy
If you wanna get hazed, join the military.
Dude .. If you’re going to tell me to drink as a hazing ceremony you’re going to drink the same if you’re so much better.
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💯 we are doing this together, or I’m out.
You guys obviously know nothing about college fraternities or pledging, do you? Chances are, the brothers who provided the alcohol had to do the same thing when THEY were pledges themselves. And there is no such thing in ANY fraternity called a “hazing ceremony.” They are pledge events. The word “hazing” does not exist in Greek life. Except in teaching pledge education that is.
They murdered that boy
@retroguy94 they shouldnt have encouraged him. So in away it is force. By peer pressure.
Encouraging someone to do it.
Is the same as forcing someone.
Ur words of ur tounge can grant the power of death n life.
Putting influences in someone a human who is weak in temptstions. N wen others encourage n push that temptation. Tjen by all.means it is forced. Forced by temptation
Encouraged by bribery (join frat in return).
They may not have murdered this young boy with their hands.
But they murdered this young boy with their mouths.
@Arty Party WOW! Talk about a person trying to force fit a situation to meet their own unhealthy opinions! And you have a VERY bad case of it. Were you ever IN a fraternity (I doubt it)? Because I was! And that isn’t the way it is at all. These are not middle or high school kids caving to peer pressure. These are grown men all over the age of 18 attending institutions of higher learning. They pledge a fraternity because they WANT to, not because they feel they HAVE to do so. And unlike being in middle/high school where peer pressure makes kids do things because they feel they have to in order to fit in and survive because they HAVE to be in school, a fraternity pledge can always walk away. In fact, I know of NO fraternity that blackballs a pledge for not drinking. In my own, plenty have not for reasons ranging from everything from medical to religious ones. Your average fraternity guy is FAR from weak (the weak ones are usually weeded out during the rush period). And no one “bribes” them. Instructions on how to get voted in are usually made quite clear from the start of the pledge process. Of course, that does not mean a pledge won’t get blackballed if a particular brother simply does not like them (that almost happened to ME) but it has nothing to do with drinking. This is just one of the current hysteria’s that people are on board with in America right now. But fraternity guys have been drinking since my grandmother’s day when they sat on top of flagpoles swallowing live goldfish while wearing raccoon coats! Only then they had to HIDE the alcohol because it was during prohibition!
@retroguy94 nope ive met gangmembers who do the same thing. Nothing ever ends up good out of it.
Pledging is the same as a new gangmember veing jumped ibto a gang. Either ritual beatings. Ritual embarrassment. Etc.
All the same.
People behaving like animals.
N trying to live like animals.
Frats show how much society has wasted their time.
@Arty Party NO fraternity beats its pledges as part of the initiation! I thought I said something about the rituals in another post to you. And it is not at ALL like a gang. Fraternities can open up opportunities for young men with their alumni network like helping to secure jobs after graduation or positions in politics. In addition, mine happens to have a national charity with a board run by alumni brothers. I’ve never heard of a gang doing that!
@retroguy94 it does not matter. It will all die off soon.
Ur traditions. N rituals. Will be no rememberance.
All of it is meaningless. U ppl develop these things. That provide no real meaning……
Ur brotherhood is false. No better then a gang.
None of it matters. After frats rituals are done.
Tgen the frat life itself will eventually disappear.
Ur frat teachings provide no wisdom in life. Neither understanding…..
All of it is worthless n provides no economical help to todays society. Or no help within future generations.
I get Hazed by the Cops all the Time… Or Military Brats… Its the Cool thing to do! Yeah, Alpha Males!
But its okay when the cops do it or when you’re in the military. They only like to pick on college guys in the Greek system!
@retroguy94 so just because cops n military get away with it. Ur gonna do thr same.
Thats stupid.
N pathetic.
@Arty Party You miss my point entirely. And you misconstrued my statement as well. I am speaking as to the typical hypocrisy of American society. When the military hazes its cadets in the military academies or during or right after basic training, no one ever says anything. The same with the cops who haze new police recruits. These men HAVE to endure this because they already signed a commitment to be in the military or it is their job to be a cop. No one HAS to join a fraternity. Its a personal choice. And a guy can always quit whilst pledging if they don’t like it. But yet, who gets picked on all the time and even has their chapters shut down and charters revoked because of it? College fraternities! THAT is my point! And incidentally, hazing started in fraternities LONG before the cops started doing it.
Losers join that junk anyhow.
It’s all fun and games until it goes wrong.
The same can be said for MANY activities in life which may be considered a bit dangerous.
It’s ridiculous..
I’m starting a frat where we smoke blunts instead of drinking. 0 deaths.
He’ll yeah I’m pledging
You’re too late bruh. Its been done.
Lmao!
It’s crazy how killing someone cuz get you less time then getting caught with drugs
Apples and oranges.
@klye sam they in fact made him drink, please learn English. They didn’t “FORCE” him but they made him. He couldn’t be part of the frat if he didn’t therefore THEY MADE HIM. I see many of you didn’t make it past community college Lmfaoo
@fatmandoubblescoop do you live under a cave ? You can be tried as a child or adult. Don’t be dense
@Miss Von if he had To jump of a Bridge to be in the frat would he do that to? Frat members aren’t your parents and aren’t responsible for your safety.
No one held him down, he wasn’t forced to do anything. He had a choice and he picked the stupid option. The only person I see that didn’t make it past 2 years of college is the drunk kid that died.
Send them to jail
Why? What exactly did they do that deserves jail time?
I don’t feel bad for idiots who do hazing.
at least they snapped him up in that Calvin Klein shirt for his final pic. Mans went out looking fresh.
Lmao
Womp womp fraternity pledge to commit suicide via alcoholism anyways
How about anti-stupidity laws?
FINALLY someone who gets it!
Haha! Over half the population would be in trouble 😊
They won’t face much time. Probably just probation & community service & fines. Smmfh…
Hazing is just stupid af. 💯
the whole greek system is stupid af. we have social media, we dont need hazing and frat houses for people to meet other people
They won’t be in there long if there parents are rich and wealthy and can hire lawyers and try to get out of jail by bond.
Just ban sororities and fraternities
No it’s a honor it build business connection this is just craziness
A beautiful soul lost to this world.
Heartbreaking.
They need prison.
Oh yea? WHY? What exactly did they do that makes prison something they deserve. And think carefully before you answer.
Slaps on wrists, expunged records, lifetime free pints and honorary degrees is more likely.
@Always V I think you’re confusing these young men with politicians and movie/television stars!
😂😂😂
Lock them all up! Shut down the fraternity!
WHY? Just tell me WHY? Drinking has been going on in fraternities since my grandmother’s day when it was flagpole sitting and goldfish eating in raccoon coats. Just who did WHAT to make the entire fraternity shut down?
Full 50 state ban on Fraternity houses
This comes to mind. Stupid prizes for stupid games. No need for torture to become a member of a frat. It’s plain stupid.
No reason to keep doing this or take it that far, these fraternities are murderers and hotbeds for illegal drinking and drugs.
Ummm, was he forced to drink though?
No he was not. Notice the words the prosecutor chose. He was “encouraged” to drink. Not forced. I was in a fraternity myself and as far as I know, NO fraternity FORCES you to drink. I know many guys over the years as an alumni advisor who have opted out for many reasons including religious ones and health.
@retroguy94 I never understood why people are so pressed to get into these fraternities or sororities. Do the hand out free tuition or something? Or is it just a party thing?
@fatmandoubblescoop LOL No, there is no free tuition! But some DO have alumni scholarships. The reasons vary. Some just want to party. Others want to seem like the ‘big men’ on campus. But these are only the OUTWARD signs of a fraternity. Its really the inner workings of it that count the most. In a national fraternity, it can provide you with lifetime opportunities. Many alumni are quite connected and can provide help with careers, political appointments, etc. Think Skull and Bones at Yale and the Bushes. In fact, fraternities in America were started in response to the ‘clubs’ in Ivy League schools that only the privileged and wealthy were invited to join and that provided connections after graduation. Plus most national fraternities have charities that they donate time to and raise money. Mine is one of the few to have its own national charity run by a board consisting of alumni. But at the center of it all IS a brotherhood which is bound together by the ritual of initiation. Once you go through that, there is a trust that is just accepted. The pledge period prepares the person FOR that initiation and also lets the brothers see if the candidate will keep and adhere to the tenants of that trust. I will give you 2 examples. A few years after graduation, I was sent for job training to another state. I visited my fraternities house at the big university there. Once identifying myself (secret signs you know) they welcomed me with open arms and even invited me to stay in the house. The other is that a few years back when I was an advisor at one of our chapters, I had a beach house nearby. We had a kind of consultant come down from national headquarters who was in his mid 20’s (he was a full brother). I had just met him, but I gave him the keys to stay in my beach house. What guy is going to just give a virtual stranger the keys to a half million dollar beach house? But I KNEW it would be safe because he was a brother! This is what people do NOT understand about fraternities. They only see the parties and the hazing.
@retroguy94 thanks for the explination, that makes alot of sense. Sadly the positive aspects of fraternities aren’t well represented, at least from what I’ve seen. But that’s good to know.
@fatmandoubblescoop Well, the reason all the positives are not represented is because fraternities ARE secret societies. I just told you a little bit of what I am able. It goes MUCH deeper than that. But that is the part I cannot discuss.
Some people will do anything to be accepted. The journey is within. Peace.
Yep. That’s the Pike’s for ya! But I will say THIS much. Most fraternities, including my own of which I served as an alumni advisor do not “FORCE” pledges to do anything. Its all voluntary except for the verbal and written exams. And you won’t get blackballed for not doing it. Notice the prosecutor used the words “encouraged” and not “forced” the pledges to drink. Personally, I think that makes all the difference in the world!
@retroguy94 1 Peter 4:3-4
King James Version
3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
@retroguy94 35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again….
24 Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them.
2 For their heart studieth destruction, and their lips talk of mischief.
3 Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established
@Arty Party However, need I remined you that Christ’s first miracle was the transformation of water in to wine at the wedding at Cana? Do you want to dispute Jesus Himself now?
@Arty Party And just what makes you think that when we pledge a fraternity that we fornicate or covet anything or worship false idols or commit extortion? That would be a falsehood of the most epic proportions!
@retroguy94 frat life n all that is not part of gods laws.
Its not even part of gods culture.
Play stupid games win stupid prize.
They should be charged!😠
Charged for WHAT exactly? What did they do that rises to the level of a crime?
Fraternity traditions need to change. They are the old egotistical way of proving loyalty. And another form of bullying.
Were you ever in one yourself? Because I was. And you are TOTALLY wrong. Ego has NOTHING to do with it. In fact, its quite the opposite. You take pledges who were cocky little high school jocks and student government leaders, etc. and you break them down to prove to them they are NOT what they think they are. That they ALL need help from their brothers (fellow man). THAT is when you start the lessons about loyalty.
Sounds like paying for friends.thats the epitome of uncool
@retroguy94 That’s an incredibly weak argument 👌
@Sarah It really is NOT. You would have to be in one yourself and go through and learn the entire process. If you know the inner workings of a national fraternity, then you would see it makes PERFECT sense. AND it works. Mine is still going strong for well over 100 years!
@William Fisher Then the entire American political and business system is uncool bruh!
Shut all fraternities down and revoke their charter
This is so sad!
Forget the degree, you gotta criminal record instead and some prison hazing coming.
Frat boys are a curse and plague. Put these murderers away.
Going through the comments seeing who is going to blame BLM for this!
???
But he isn’t black. Why should we care?
We should care cause his life is over he somebody baby boy.
They should instruct everyone that if you are looking to find a group of guys to be your friends in a fraternity and they want to sadistically abuse you, then they aren’t your friends and you need to look for some real friends.
Some of my best friends and I have sadistically abused each other. You wouldn’t believe where a whole hand fits.
Dear Parents teach your children well, know your limits..pointing the finger is easy, bringing them back is not
Privileged white boys, wont see a day in jail. Someone dies he will walk free.
Lol good luck kid . I hope all your dreams come true. In prison
How do fraternitys even get insurance anymore?
I hope they convict all of them. This is NOT A GAME. PEOPLE ARE DYING
I remember that frats used to make their members do homosexual acts to haze them in. It’s crazy that I’d prefer that to these crazy acts they make them do now. That practice needs to be banned all together.
White people problems🙄🙄🙄
He voluntarily participated in this. The university, I’m sure, tolerates drinking in the Greek system. Is the state of Ohio going to ban the Greek system? Nope. This will happen again and again because people want to do it and the adults are willing to tolerate a little friendly fire.
Good… These clubs are nothing but trouble. Colleges and universities are also responsible for not cracking down. They knew what these kids are up to, and as always, they try to hide these crimes.
Jail time !!! At least 50 years
BAN ALCOHOL!
Fraternities are trash anyone wanting in them should rethink think life purposes
Better be glad it wasnt my kid
Fraternities are so 2001. Feel bad for the family though. Universities should really tackle this. It’s stupid, belittling, demoralizing.. it has zero benefits. I mean like really.
Good
These children of entitlement will NOT go to jail🙁
Of course they won’t…its the American way, what they fought for…entitlement and privilege.
@Always V It was a fight and our entitlement is well-earned.
That is not new!
A lot of fraternities and sororities might have the same secret handshakes and not even know it.
Sergeant Robert Justin alford green at nellis AFB and Deborah freedman where is my daughter Jahmela and her 4 children and what have you done to them.
This is their idea of a good time. They only regret when tragedy strikes. It’s too late. No point having laws in place if citizens simply take it for granted.
Fraternities and Sororities serve no purpose. Time to abolish them permanently!
They must go to jail.
It’s the only way to stop it happening.
I’m mormon…all my friends are mormon. And all of us today are still alive. We were taught not todo drugs and drink and want to be accepted. Call us boring but if we go to school it’s to learn not to drink party have fun be wild and see who can drink the most and end up dead.
Aw come on PIKES, you’re better than this.
Couldn’t make the cut
He volunteered for it. and you contacted them but have problem convicting magnum force police on unarmed black. them boys should be on administrative paid leave.too🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
They are white college kids, nothing will happen.
It’s sad to say….but nothing will change!!! Nothing!!! How many kids die from college Hazing? How many kids died from mass shootings? Nothing will change! It doesn’t matter who you vote for😞
Wait until these eight get a hazing upon entering prison.
Outlaw fraternities. They won’t learn, ever.
Wow they will get a degree in proctology in jail
THE MERCENARY NON WOKE MARTIAL ARTS HEAD CRUSHING ACTION NOW ON AMAZON PRIME ……………………..
They so called white. Tbeyll get fine and probation. N their records will be clear if they complete it …
Stone, you looked too well to be in such foolishness. I was drinking Hennessy. I was 17 years old. I drank that crap. I was seeing all black. The room was spinning. I was vomiting. The people said that they were going to call the police each time that I went out. I said, “No, I don’t supposed to be drinking. I’m going to get in trouble.” I felt warm and tingling in the inside. I don’t drink. That stuff has something deadly in it. It’s not right. It needs to be illegal.
Bowling green U 😂
Why this is still a thing…
I am so happy for the family.
I’d rather be called a prude or other such names if I don’t do what these manipulative power-tripping idiotic morons tell me to…and be one of the non-cool kids.
If 20 guys form a group in the streets, it’s a gang.
If the same 20 guys form a group in a college, it’s a fraternity.
Horrible! My heart is with his family.
It’s not just Greek life hazing, clubs and other organizations haze too
When are these morons going to understand that everyone’s body chemistry is different.
Just because a group of people can handle large quantities of liquor doesn’t mean everyone can.
No one can control their body chemistry over night, one can develop a tolerance over a period of time, but not over night.
They really should be teaching this in high school.
Why some people die when they drink too much liquor and others don’t?
Because of body chemistry.
Downing a bottle of 151 is tradition after crossing.
Have fun but know your limits…
You pay money to join a frat to learn how to misbehave and drink and smoke and do drugs and waste your mind and life away?? All to “fit in”?
Ban, stop all frats. Make them a join a college group at a local church or make more positive groups. Not frats. Pointless and a waste of money.
Must be racist?
The parents are fcking idiots. So they knew their soon was part of a Greek frat and they were like, “good job son” then this happens and act like they didn’t know. Oh well, another one bites the dust. He was not about the life.
Where were his parents ????? They allowed him and were ok with him being in a frat. Parents think frats are cool and a benefit till this happens and they cry wolf as if they didn’t know, maybe the parents should’ve advised him not to do this. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Usual suspect. They just left him 2 die.
It will never stop. The is an abundance of immature people and will always be.
The Unis also need to take more serious measures such as shutting down the fraternities and sororities. Enough is enough. Tradition does not overide the safety of people’s lives
No more hazing, so sad. Heartbreaking.
Its murder. I hope they rot
The so called “Greek system” should be officially renounced by every accredited school in the US. If they want to be “unofficial”? So be it. But a school shouldn’t officially have a relationship with these sorts of clubs.
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His parents were in fraternitys and sororitys they know the drill that’s why their not distraught and they have life insurance money coming to them
WHY DO SOME TEENS WANT TO JOIN THESE FRATS. WHY?.😔