Yahoo Finance’s Aikiko Fujita, Julie Hyman, Brian Cheung, and Pras Subramanian discuss the U.S. Commerce Department delaying their decision on the Huawei ban and Huawei unveiling their homegrown OS called Harmony.
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Just how narcissistic and self-aggrandizing can the US be? Huawei has made it clear that the US can do whatever it wants. Nobody is gonna be in a limbo waiting. The world will move ahead with or without US.
Communist tactic
Stop spying and committing espionage China.
@David Hynes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013%E2%80%93present)
Damn, Frank. You nail it.
So far I heard this is the future since it is integrated. Soon stand alone OS like Android will be unwanted in the interconnected world.
Yes it is a micro kernel OS which can work across different types of devices. Google is also working in the same direction.
So initial reports that it’s not an android replacement have been somewhat misleading… This is much more and I am sure folks at Google are aware of that and I am not surprised to hear they are working in the same direction to counter it.
@Animated Anatomy FYI it’s called Google Fuchsia.
why is the chinses looking journalists who work for MSM are more hawkish towards china than OTHER journalists?
She is Japanese and Japanese hates China to the guts due to WW2 atrocities Japan did to China(they fear that China wants to revenge them).
@BSPBuilder yeah, all japanese are china hater, but they will get punished for their war crime since they have not even apologized to china
cause she is Japanese, not all Asians are the same, LOL it’s like looking at a Jew and an Arab and just because they’re both from the Middle East, you assume they’re the same, in fact they’re sworn enemies.
Let them show the world their stupidity themselves 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a war of words. I even if Huawei is committed to Android, and lets say the HarmonyOS is not ready. I think they made the right move by making the announcement, in a way they are responding to Trump’s threats “Huawei is not a pushover”. Its all a game of words.
can’t be stopped
what is this Japanese lady trying to say?
Stupid journalist, whatever her name is, Mr. Ren said “we dont have any plan to apply it to smartphones”. It is totally different from “we dont have a backup plan for it”. Yes, Huawei has a backup plan but Android is their preferred choice if permitted so currently they dont plan to use their own OS. Is your English taught by PE teacher?
this japanese lady is liar, she distorted what ren zhenfei said, go watch other ren zhe fei interview and other huawei video released 2 month ago, huawei os is 60% faster than andriod , google the news or youtube video ,this dumbass biatch is trying to play down huaweis ability , american media is typical liar media, also all chinese phone brands already tested on new OS system, and if trade war goes on, they will all drop andriod, and china phone market is world largest , and china is world largest and top smart phone maker too, at top 10, 7 of them are chinese brands, this will kill merica companies , if china complete ban merican companies
Agree! She has no idea what Ren said…!
She was hearing without listening, but in a US arrogant way.
No worries,huawei was asking the troubles
I will have this Harmony OS phone even U.S. allow Huawei to use Android.
I will get one huawei phone with new OS.
Jc I would expect those with Kirin 980 are able to update to new OS, because EMUI 10.0 already contain some features from the HarmonyOS.
Lord, you interviewed him and what you got from it is he said they don’t have a backup? He specifically said he’d like to continue using Andriod, but if they can’t their own OS that is 7 years in the making is ready to go. Google is obviously trying to get approval from the US government. If you did your research, at the HarmonyOS unveiling, they said AS SOON AS ANDRIOD STOPS WORKING……HARMONY OS CAN BE TURNED ON IMMEDIATELY!!!!!
lol these muricans really do not understand chinese ppl, we always speak with a reassuring tone as not to panic others. trust me harmony os is operational on mobile devices
She heard only what she thought, LOL🤣🤣
It is an OS that could/can/will eventually replace Android and Microsoft Windows let alone iOS and MacOS and it is “25%+” faster and across all hardware platforms. This effort traces back 14+ years when US started actively and zealously blocking Huawei in US as well as other countries. I am not sure if this blocking is/was a smart move. Obviously, US lacks long term strategies, especially smart ones.
This is a typical case of “your best friend is your worst enemy”.
haha, watch the HarmonyOS releasing video yesterday. its not bluffing…its digging google’s backyard in fact~
Google is also working on a similar OS.
@Ozsharpener yeah, Huawei mentioned it and they said HarmonyOS will be better.
@Ozsharpener but Google hasn’t their hardwares and IoT
china only moves forward
like andrew yang said, not left, not right, but forward!
Don’t underestimate the Chinese and Huawei.
These people have Never heard of CHINA SPEED! America is in for a big shock
Cause they never sat in a China high speed train before.
@Henry HYMC because china stole the tech!
Harmony OS is ready and has better performance and future over Android OS. Huawei just prefers win-win working relationships with other companies so Google’s Android will be 1st choice if situation permitted. This is Huawei/Mr. Ren’s business philosophy.
It’s called HongmengOS in China (ArkOS abroad). Harmony is name of HSR in China. Stupid Yahoo media.
@Kwan Fung I was wrong. Apparently, HongmengOS has now been renamed as HarmonyOS in English. Thanks.
Go and learn Chinese before interviewing. English is for native English speaker only. Don’t depend on translator.
HarmonyOS is Micro Kernel based, is the OS of the future, with the most advance cryptography technology, super safe against malicious attacks, it come with latency of 5 ms, impossible to achieve in Android and Apple IOS Linux base OS. HarmonyOS is open source too. That will attract a lot of developers in no time.Google and Apple need to catch up and speed up their micro base OS development.
It’s a universal OS
Harmony os is genius masterpiece.
Look, the Chinese market is totally immune to the Google ban. It is Huawei’s overseas market that will be affected. True, Samsung failed to build an ecosystem around its mobile OS. Heck, even Microsoft failed. But Huawei just might if push comes to shove, because the Chinese market and its developer communities are huge. America is playing with fire.
Dream on
@Paul Bwalya Better to dream and work hard towards it, than to surrender to a bully, wouldn’t you say? Perhaps, just perhaps, your aggression comes from this little little sense of fear in you that they may, just may, succeed? There was this guy, you know, who once said: “We reach for the moon… not because it is easy, but because it is hard”. The world would be better off if we all try harder to overcome, trust me.
Wait for it but not Hwawei OS, we move forward!
Haha….. Not good!? Just better than your vanilla Android, enough said!
White and their lapdogs always assume they are the best
Just when that Mr.Ren saying (albeit it’s on translated voice over) that huawei not having backup plan??
My take on this is, huawei isn’t looking for replacement of android , as it turn out Harmony OS is replacement of all-OSes hahahaha….
@Brain Washington
#metoo :p but that not my point…
@Ecrush so what was ur point?
@Brain Washington
“we should be refrain from sounding/looking like jihadist radicals … “
@Ecrush but where did that come from? it was out of nowhere. i thought u were talking about those HK protesters in black with mask
@Brain Washington I was referring to your comment earlier, your 1st comment to be exact…
TBH, i was confused too, how come Hongmeng OS have todo w/ those rioters in HK hahaha…
Chinese os haha. Another stolen product from Google Android.
China is the biggest thief in the world
stolen but 60% faster? stop sucking on western hind teat, when was the last time the islamic world invented anything?
Love Samsung and will stay with Android system
Good for you, I’m going with the better product on the market, which just happen to be Hauwai at the moment, you can stick to the over priced samsung phone with the battery life of a baby’s nappie
@S time will prove. Samsung and Apple still the best
The bully got bullied.Thanks to Trumpet the world have more choices.I like the name they choose “Harmony”
her success in all industries and she is the only company that deserves thanks and appreciation you are the strongest and will remain the strongest Abu Alofa thank you
Likely Fake OS
Some experts say that phone basa good camera, I wonder if I could zoom until I can see China’s concentration camps with that junk.
u gotta get ur head out of ur arse first
if the OS is not good, then just improve on it, Android was shit when it first came out.
Huawei never said that the HarmonyOS is not ready for smartphones. They only said that they prefer to stay with Android.
@SHK japanese are america lapdogd.
which is really just letting Google “save face”. this OS is for many types of devices… so of course it would be eventually used on phones
You guys didn’t really understand what is released, it’s about loT OS, phone is just a part of it. Do your homework better
Indeed. The sheer ignorance of the US tv anchors is unbelievable.
EXACTLY! They are horribly ignorant.
Look back at the history, from 1945 afterwards, any actions/steps adopted by usa against Chiness GCD was failed !
I am waiting to buy a ” HMOS new M-phone ” eagerly !!!!!
love to use it… and the hell with Google Android craps!
lol these muricans really do not understand chinese ppl, we always speak with a reassuring tone as not to panic u guys. trust me harmony os is operational on mobile devices
So if Huawei says Google is their preferred choice that means it is bullshit.
Huawei’s OS is open source. Thus there is no backstory whatsoever. I guess CIA and FBI are not very happy.
Not backstory. It’s no backdoor. Read that article from 5 years ago, it was about how Huawei was saying they will get targetted soon because they told 5 eyes that they would not give them their data and algorithms. And here we are. In all honesty this is a cultural war, about Western culture thinking they are Superior to eastern culture. White supremacy through and through. Liberal west love to preach, but never do
Support Huawei!!!!
When this arrogant Journalist interviewed Mr Ren, she asked who did you(Mr ren) learnt most from American. And Mr Ren responded humorously that he learned that he didn’t have 60billions to leave his wife. And you could tell from this stupid Journalist how proud as a AMERICAN she is.🤣🤣
This is proof that the Chinese have long term vision and plan. They knew this day would come and how the USA would react when their dominance is threatened.
They probably meant that they will use android as long as they can even if harmony os would be ready.. Or atleast thats what they have been saying for a while now. Theyre doing good with android so why wouldnt they continue using it.
Go, HarmonyOS and Huawei‼️
How stupid can these Yahoo guys are. Look up the definition of IOT. Anything that is connected to the internet is an IOT of which the smartphone is one. Capiche? The HM O/S is far superior than Android and Google knew that that is why it’s pushing the US gov’t to grant them waivers. The reason why Hauwei prefer to stick with Android outside China is because it takes time to build up an eco-system. Using Android for the moment just buy them the time needed.
Trump’s ban huawei and Google’s first reaction shows very clear that all chinese companies have to be awared to their cooperation with all American companies, the risk is real and they can be in danger in any moment if they don’t find their own way to be independent and just lean on the technology of an american company for their survival. Useless to have a contract with any american company, just with a word from the US government in the name of a so called ” national interest ” or ” national security “, all American companies can refuse to supply and fail to comply their contract. Is it only concerning Chinese or can we understand that all non American companies are facing the same risk ? Trump has already threatened some European countries that if they buy huawei 5G, they will be “punished ” in some way…
huawei’s new OS is like google fuchsia, microkernel based. google fuchsia just started late and the developer team is as not big as that of huawei. huawei’s team has almost 5000 head counts.
I’m condused! I thought Hongmeng/Harmony OS was in development since 2012 and was ready to be used in case of Android not being available. Android is Huawei’s first choice OS because Huawei doesn’t want to harm its business relationship with Google. This philosophy applies to US chip makers as well. If US government bans Huawei from using any of the US tech, then they (Huwei) will have no choice but to use their OS and chipset. The roll out of their new OS in their lower Honor phones is to market test the OS and to work with developers as well as to signal to the US government that they can’t be beaten. Huawei will still use Android in their Mate series phones if it is still available to them. This is my understanding of the current Huawei situation at this juncture of the trade/tech war between China and the US. It seems the female reporter was telling me something entirely different. Just my 2 cents. Peace.
Questions n answers in this conversation are irrelevant. A company will have to keep moving at this spot despite… their customers are waiting every second for their moves and potential customers as well. and Huawei seems to have the answers. If they don’t have a good enough os in the coming…they are not a big enough company to weather the storm. I’m sure they know what the high demands are with so many techies in the company. It will be exciting for everyone with this new os. Tech is all about innovation.
GO HUAWEI , GO FOR A KILL
Harmony OS banned andoidOS hahahaha
Trump kill google business
HUAWEI!Verry good ! Great !
The million dollar question, if harmony will aucced
my next phone is huawei!
The USA has always used their military, economic and technological power to threaten and blackmail nations that don’t bow to them . But by over using this power it has forced the rest of the world to look for alternative wherever they can . They are looking more towards Russia for top end military equipment and security ,they are looking towards China for economic and financial development , even their traditional allies in Europe and elsewhere are looking to forge new alliances and agreements outside of American influence .
China and Russia are showing the world that through hard work , innovation and cooperation that being dominated and trodden on by the USA is the only way to live .
a bunch of massively misinformed tech unsavvy amateurs discussing and spreading further more misinformation LOL
Hell yes so sick of the Android and iOS monopoly
You are uninformed, Huawei has a backup plan for the cell phones as well. Besides Harmony (being rolled out in China)… Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo are already testing Aurora OS as a complete deviation from Android that is meant to create a completely new ecosystem in Asia. With these companies controlling around 40% market share, there’s no compelling reason this will not succeed. If Samsung decides to join the party, Google will be willing to consider giving them Android for free very very soon.
The beauty of the harmony OS is that it could operate all devices. It could use any hardware loaded with harmony OS as an extension of your phone.
Move on Huawei, move on. The Americans current hp ecosystem of what’s left behind will be like their Agri sector… Plentiful but not wanted.
Mr. Ren is correct. HarmonyOS is not exactly an alternative to Android smartphone OS, rather HarmonyOS is an OS for almost all IoT products. It is more than than what Android(and Fuschsia) is.
Faster and better than Android? Sound good enought reason for me to change! 🤓🤓🤓
Another ignorant Indian man trying to bring up sumsung develop OS. HarmonyOS is better than Fuchsia google new OS. Google were developing fuchsia with Huawei during the R&D together.
HarmonyOS isn’t even a mobile OS, it is an IoT OS. It is not really comparable with Android, it is more comparable with Google’s Fuchsia OS. If IoT is the next big thing, Huawei will win big with this one by building an ecosystem first.
There is going to be a proliferation of smart devices, the smart phone is just one of many smart devices that people are going to use. Current mobile OSes are not well suited for operating across multiple devices. A new type of OS and app ecosystem will need to be developed to operate across the multitude of smart devices people are going to use. An app won’t just run on your smart phone in the future, it will run on a network on connected smart devices, some of which you own, some of which you might rent, and some of which might run in the cloud.
People are going to want to have portable user experiences across their phone, watch, car, tv, computer, vr device. Not all of these devices might even be owned by the user. Making this experience seemless and secure across differences in hardware and device ownership is not trivial, and will require a new type of OS.
No wonder things are the way they are. Such complete arrogance and/or ignorance. Do they have any clue how competent Huawei is in network equipment and smartphones. betting against them is dumb – that’s why Trump’s team wants to ban them. Fact is that this being open source is a big “threat” to Google. Another big issue is that this is not the same as Android or iOS… This is an OS that is compatible across many types of internet enabled devices. They also don’t seem to have a clue of the market in China. It’s smartphone market is the size of the US and EU combined. Yet all they can do is hope it flops.
Trump is attempting to lose billions of dollars for Google by not allowing the Android approval for Huawei. This is completely unacceptable.