Solar City: The Future of Florida’s Energy (Part 2) | NBC Nightly News

2020 5/30
Solar City: The Future of Florida’s Energy (Part 2) | NBC Nightly News

The eight years it took to get the Babcock Ranch Solar Energy Center built helped usher in a new state-wide effort by Florida Power and Light to vastly expand solar plants throughout the state. By the end of Florida Power and Light’s solar push, about 40 percent of the state’s electricity will come from solar, while the remainder will come from natural gas and nuclear power plants.» Subscribe to NBC News:
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  • a. barker says:


  • a. barker says:

    Glad to see the use of solar in the SUNSHINE state.

    • Nicholas A. says:

      The whole Sun Belt should.

    • a. barker says:

      @Nicholas A. China and India are years in front of this. TRUMP wanted a legacy and job reform. He missed out on this with all his wall B.S.

    • Nicholas A. says:

      @a. barker yup, sad! And this is coming from someone from MN.

  • Boyejo Ayotunde says:


  • Gixellia says:

    How high is the number of birds lost every day? every migration season?
    Any concerns about them, everybody?

    I’m all for alternative energy; just thinkin’….

    • David C says:

      It is tiny compared to the number of birds that die from building windows, cell towers, fossil fuel plants and many other things.
      Google it…

    • David C says:

      j mac please google this…
      Yes. Birds die from a tremendous number of things. Wind power is at the very low end of the list.
      Cellphone towers are an order of magnitude greater. So are building windows, power lines, fossil fuel power plants and a BUNCH of other things.
      There’s about 9 billion birds in the US give or take a Billion or so.
      This is Fossil Fuel FUD

    • j mac says:

      @David C I used to believe in solar like you… But it’s just not a good alternative… Watch planet of the humans and you’ll see how much polution it produces and how wreckless it is to the environment, they didn’t have a solution in the film though, they just say there’s too many people, but I researched…. Nuclear is the way to go… Watch this guy explain it.

    • j mac says:

      @David C  David C  Bill gates also invested in a nuclear technology and was about to build a power plant in China, but it got stopped because of the trade war… Hes got a blue print that he says is 100% safe and says he’d even live near it… You probably have more people killed from solar compared to old nuclear technology. And most of the nuclear plants we have now are using technology from the 1960’s. Other link to why nuclear

    • David C says:

      j mac
      I’m very familiar with PotH. It was a poorly researched movie. They used very old data about solar from the 1995’s and 2005 / 2010 era.
      It decreased in cost tremendously since then and has become about three time more efficient. Between the cost decrease and efficiency increase, the effectiveness is about 9 times better than quoted in the film. Basically an order of magnitude better.
      The film had some valid points but they were way off base about solar. I’ve been following it closely for 15 years.
      Solar will continue becoming more effective and cost even less.

      Happy to see what comes from Bill Gates research about nuclear…
      But currently Nuclear is entirely too dangerous as Fukushima showed us, yet again.
      Hope the new version turns out better.

  • j mac says:

    Terrible idea… Production of solar causes so much polution as well as after its decommissioned… Many companies have fourth Gen nuclear technology that’s 100% safe and produces more consistent energy without polluting. Bill gates team has developed new nuclear technology that’s 100% safe. Here you have solar glass creeping up on wildlife areas, no plants no wild life there… More and more we keep taking up their space… That’s just dumb.

    • David C says:

      j mac
      Coal is plummeting in usage in the US and most advanced countries. Will get passed by renewables this year in the US for power generation. Game over man! Too expensive AND too dirty. It’s a power source that has been used for centuries and its time has passed.

      Solar, wind & Hydro + battery storage is taking coal’s place and sooner rather than later will also replace Nat Gas. (In the US for sure.)

    • j mac says:

      @David C Nah… That’s impossible… No matter how you look at the data… Wind and solar does not produce enough to provide for world population… And actually is more harmful doe the environment.

    • David C says:

      j mac
      Sorry. Completely wrong.
      Fossil fuels are way worse for the world in every way than solar & wind.. It’s not even close. PotH is a pile of garbage and tries to use bad data from DECADES ago to make a deceptive attempt to smear the positive change going on.
      We can already see it happening. Already know that Coal is being shut down in the US because it’s too expensive relative to solar and wind.
      ALL peaker plants will go away in this decade because they are too expensive and can be replaced by storage.
      Already started happening…deal with it. S Australia just increased their battery backup by 50% because it’s soooo much less expensive.

    • j mac says:

      @David C I don’t like coal or natural gas either… There’s just no way solar or wind can supply the world its just not efficient enough. Nuclear power plant is the way to go… There’s new technology like thorium that can power the entire world, it’s much cleaner and safer than solar or wind and provides 100x more energy.

    • Mr. Fox says:

      Yes nuclear is very clean but the bad thing about is nuclear waste, no matter which gen plan you have it will still produce nuclear waste. Also nuclear waste takes from 1 thousand to tens of thousands of years to disintegrate. If we go nuclear, then we have to invest more into Nuclear Fusion . it would produce even more energy with no dangerous waste, because its by product is helium: an inert, non-toxic gas.

  • j mac says:

    Watch planet of the humans and it’ll change you’re mind about solar… Bill gates new nuclear fourth generation technology is 100% safe and much better.

    • MrMLaidlaw says:

      Not a thing yet. Still being researched but I agree it looks like a good idea to burn the waste from earlier gen nuclear

    • j mac says:

      @MrMLaidlaw Bill gates was actually about to go to China to build it, but it was stopped because of Trumps trade war. But honestly he should be building it in the US… Only problem is these environmentalist blocking it… They keep pushing wind and solar but those are much more harmful to the environment.

  • H W says:

    Disappointing to see he built houses flush to the ground instead of raised up in hurricane country, flooding!

  • Edward Hartzell says:

    And who’s going to clean all them panels it’s not even enough room in between each panel to travel to clean them what a f****** gimmick the Democrats try to pull.

  • ChrisNVegas says:

    Glad I won’t have to pay that electric bill.
    What a scam…

    • lisa myhre says:

      Chris Baumgarten not a scam I live off solar with no bills

  • Nicky Chuaybamrung says:

    China is terribly pollution and out of control traffic jam , the evacuated 1368 mills is jot an option at all !

    • Mr. Fox says:

      Yea China is big polluter, but also the leaders in renewable energy. They have massive solar and wind farms.

    • Neojhun says:

      @Mr. Fox Way more scary than that. They stole massive amount of Renewables I.P. Then dumped billions into R&D and Scailing up Production. They want to Corner the Global Market just like they did with Rare Earth Metals. They want to be leading supplier of Renewable Ecosystem equipment in a couple decades. It is also highly forced by their Lack of Fossil Fuels in their own territories.

  • ChrisNVegas says:

    Watch planet of the humans. There will be broken glass all over.

    • Solar God says:

      How many cellphones,plastic bags, cars , toilet tissue , Amazon boxes , and etc is wasted everyday ?

    • David C says:

      Chris Baumgarten
      PotH is a POS.
      These are NOT Solar Mirrors. No glass. PotH did a terrible job of research…or they had an axe to grind with a bunch of people wealthier than them.
      These are PV Panels and have the ability to last for 30+ years. Solar is replacing coal around the country and around the world. Will replace expensive natural gas here in the US after it gets rid of coal.

    • Isaac A Mattoo says:

      @David C PotH aside you do not understand physics. PV and wind CANNOT REPLACE COAL because coal is BASE LOAD POWER. Only nuclear, hydropower, oil, or methane can replace coal.

    • David C says:

      Isaac A Mattoo
      Hello Issac.

      First, you don’t know me…so please don’t pretend to tell me what I do and do not know. It’s rude and can make someone look quite foolish.
      Second, I attended a Top 3 Engineering School in the US for Civil Engineering. I’ve got Physics handled.

      I am assuming you do too…So allow me to walk you through why I believe what I do. Let’s start with First Principles:

      1. What is the largest source of energy / power in the SOLAR System?
      A: The Sun ☀️
      2. By a little? Or by a LOT?
      A: By a LOT.
      3. How were ALL fossil fuels created? (original source of energy)
      A: The Sun ☀️ (Directly or Indirectly)
      4. Where should humans ultimately get their energy?
      A: The Sun 🌞
      5. Where does wind energy come from? (Origin)
      A: The Sun
      6. Where does Hydro come from? (Again, origin source?)
      A: The Sun ☀️
      7. Why is the entire Earth 🌍 not a frozen chunk of ice and dirt?
      A: The Sun ☀️

      8. Do we as humans primarily use energy (all kinds) at a single source? Or in a VERY distributed manner?
      A: In a VERY distributed manner.
      9. Should we as humans who use energy in a VERY distributed manner also produce energy in a MORE (Very) distributed manner than we do?
      A: YES, Yes we should.
      10. Did we used to have (still have in many cases) BILLIONS of things that required power (energy) to operate?
      A: YES! All telephones ☎️ used to have to be connected by a powered landline.
      11. How did we solve that powered by landline issue?
      A: Batteries 🔋
      12. Does the same solution (Ultimately) work for cars / buses / trucks…
      A: YES! Yes it does.
      13. Do homes 🏠 run on electricity / power?
      A: Yes.
      14. Are Homes (including Apts, Condos and other dwellings distributed?
      A: Yes. Yes they are.


      15. What main source should humans us for energy / power?
      A: The Sun 🌞 (incl wind & hydro).
      16. How should we capture it / produce it? Distributed? Larger Non-Distributed (Grid scale)? Mixed?
      A: For now Mixed…Eventually Distributed. (As much as possible.)
      17. If we have enough Storage and distributed power generation…what happens to Baseload demands?
      A: Demand for baseload decreases.
      18. If we have a LOT of distributed power generation (and battery storage), what happens to all that Baseload that coal and Nat Gas companies think we need??
      A: MUCH of it goes away.
      Residential, Commercial, Transport…almost all Baseload goes away with enough distributed energy production.
      19. What happens to Coal, Oil and Nat Gas (and / or Methane) when we have enough Distributed Renewables & Storage?
      They all mostly go away eventually…

      20. Oh My Gosh!!! What will we do as humans then???
      A: We’ll ALL Breathe Easier!!!
      (And so will everything else on the planet 🌎 that breathes!)

      The End!

    • Isaac A Mattoo says:

      David C thanks for your reply:

      4. Wrong. The answer is ultimately fusion power, bringing the sun to earth because the inverse square law exists. In the meantime fission is by far and away the next best thing.
      11&12 Is incorrect batteries are not a viable solution for the entire grid. Too expensive and life cycles are too short to implement worldwide. They also requires tons of materials (more if pumped hydro batteries storage, and medium if redox-flow batteries)

      15. Fission is the answer until we get commercial fusion reactors (the sun is only about ~2% efficient in matter to energy conversion, commercial fusion would be much better than that). We cannot expand hydro in the developed world plus with all the environmental damage we shouldn’t and wind is too intermittent to rely on.

      17&18 “much of it goes away” yes but not all.
      19&20 to have a fully distributed grid is economically prohibitive and is super crazy inefficient because of economies of scale. What happens in reality is that solar plants get backed up with fossil fuel plants and up until now the increase in natural gas plants is worse than just keeping coal running when solar penetration is more than 4% off grid energy. This is because the natural gas industry admits to a 1.4% leak rate into the atmosphere before it gets to its point of being sold to power companies, this methane is worse for warming.

      Rooftop solar makes sense of you already have it, but it’s not a utility scale solution when another option is nuclear. Dollar for dollar and way for watt nuclear kills less people, uses less materials, and is more practical to make the climate crisis go in reverse by sucking more carbon out of the air than we emit each year. Going zero emissions today just keeps us going 60mph towards climate disaster, only the nuclear option has enough juice to stop to 0mph and take the whole climate crisis in reverse at max speed using 900+ 1GWe nuclear power plants making concrete using atmospheric CO2 and dumping lime in the oceans to restore its average pH back to 8.1


    Great job. Please keep going for the planet.

  • Ryan Roberts says:

    How can you possibly know what the average temperature was within 2 degrees before we started burning fossil fuel? We’ve been burning for over a hundred years. They did not have thermometers accurate enough 100 years ago to say that. Even if they did there are certainly not enough data points to come up with a world average within 2 degrees!

    • David C says:

      Ryan Roberts
      Again, Don’t care that much.
      1652 is NOT 100 years ago.
      There are still people alive from 100 years ago.
      Yes, I can tell Engineering & Science not big with you.
      It was still quite accurate 100 years ago. Being very accurate is what science and engineering are about. Rockets or Temps. Simply sharing that 100 years ago is not the Stone Age.

    • Ryan Roberts says:

      @David C You don’t care yet you keep replying…and you’re missing the point entirely. Even if they did have an accurate number from just 100 years ago, which they do not, that would not be enough data to make a conclusion! 100 years is nothing in the earth’s time scale. Climate changes over time whether humans are involved or not. And these time scales are on the order of tens of thousands of years! Even if the earth heated up for 2 degrees for 100 years that would be but a momentary blip for half a second in the earth’s universe.

    • David C says:

      @Ryan Roberts I understand the point.
      It takes a long time to build a house…but it only takes a short time for it to catch on fire and burn down, 
      relatively speaking. 
      Same for Glaciers or arctic sea ice…formed over hundreds of years…yet when it melts (and get thinner / newer) then it happens much faster than it takes to create it.
      Soooo…When your house is on fire…it may be a “Blip” in the time to construct it…but you want to put it out in a heck of a hurry, or else you’re in big trouble.
      Last comment…enjoy!

    • Ryan Roberts says:

      @David C This has nothing to do with knowing the temperature 100 years ago, which doesn’t really mean anything even if you did know that. It’s perfectly normal for temperatures to be plus/minus 2 degrees every year, every month, every day, sometimes in periods of decades. If we were talking 20 degrees you could say something – 2 degrees is lost in the noise.

    • Patrick O says:

      @Ryan Roberts lol, thermometers capable of tenth of a degree accuracy have existed since the early 1700s. We have consistent accurate records of daily temperatures since the 1880s. For temps going back thousands of years, they primarily use core samples of earth and ice. But the current model of temp includes tons of stuff like core samples, fossil records, pollen grains, tree rings, ocean sediment, etc. They take info from every source they can find and combine it to build an accurate historical temperature model.
      Rather than pretending we don’t know how to determine historical temperatures, why not use google and educate yourself? There is a wikipedia page called “Proxy_(climate)” that explains different sources of data. The more data collected, the more accurate it is.

  • Cliff McLarnon says:

    We need to do this for every State!!

    • Mr Gritty says:

      Alaska? No sunlight

    • David C says:

      Mr Gritty
      LOTS of sunlight for part of the year.
      But Alaska can be last to change.
      Hawaii is already heading in this direction.

  • Ritwik Chattopadhyay says:

    another thing for conservatives to hate

    • Ritwik Chattopadhyay says:

      @Jared one person doesn’t make any difference, check out others in your herd

    • Ritwik Chattopadhyay says:

      @Jared what kind of crap drug you’re on? Nothing is deleted here. It’s a conservative way of things to delete, deflect & lie

  • J Smith says:

    Great way to destroy ecosystems. Large scale solar is more destructive than traditional power sources. I’m as green as it gets…biology major, environmentalist, etc. People simply don’t understand where solar panels come from, the ecological destruction throughout the development and installation, and the fact that fossil fuels are still needed to support the grid…and this is large amounts of power, not just Small support…lots of CO2. Small scale solar, in businesses and homes are ok, but more habitat destruction is not the way to stop climate change…it is the problem. All the focus is on the wrong thing… protect natural environments…that should be THE focus.

    • Mr Gritty says:

      What then?

    • Casey Leimbach says:

      We have the technology to make safe nuclear power a viable option. Thats about as clean as it gets, just have elon launch the spent fuel rods into the sun.

    • Mr Gritty says:

      @Casey Leimbach waaay too risky

    • David C says:

      @Casey Leimbach Yeah, just what we need nuclear tipped missiles / rockets flying over our heads…
      Oh wait…that’s a real thing already from the Cold War…
      not a good idea at all..

  • Carl O says:

    You lost me when you said Nuclear, and you think Coal is bad, haha.

  • Roberto Ruiz Hinojosa says:

    Star Wars futures soar

  • Youngjun Lee says:

    One tornado ^^ more harm to environment

    • Patrick O says:

      Everything in florida is built to survive hurricanes.

  • wily wascal says:

    Florida’s extensive use of solar farms for energy supply is inspiring. However, we’re way behind the eight-ball. While this demonstrates a positive start on the possibilities, have to wonder if much of Florida and many of Florida’s solar farms will be underwater in another couple of decades, given our past dismal record and current state in fighting climate change. Not in any way to suggest giving up; just the reality of our continuing human failures that worries me. We have the capabilities to surmount the obstacles we create for ourselves, but do we have the will to use them? The answer to date has not been very reassuring. We’ll have gone backwards for four years under the Trump administration, and its pathetic, incompetent, and ignorant response to this COVID-19 pandemic should be an object lesson on criminal negligence by our government in relation to AGW.

  • Casey Leimbach says:

    Solar power is incredibly inefficient in a best-case scenario, as well as being expensive and not cost effective. There are far better options out there for renewable energy.

    • David C says:

      Casey Leimbach
      Yeah, That’s not accurate.
      Solar is a lower cost provider in FL and many places and PV panels (and battery storage) are getting lower cost every year.
      The Tech is improving significantly.
      Coal is rapidly being replaced, solar & wind are the largest amounts of new energy production being installed every year.

    • Casey Leimbach says:

      @David C for small scale residential applications, it can offset your power cost, true. Thats a drop in a swimming pool. For large scale commercial or industrial applications, the size of the array that you’d need would be insane and not cost effective or realistic.

    • Casey Leimbach says:

      @David C wind turbines, on the other hand, are incredibly efficient

    • nycameleon says:

      The biggest down side to Solar panels is that in 10 years it will cost way less and you’ll get more battery storage… but if you keep waiting for the price drop for those 10 years you’ll be out thousands of dollars in utility bills.

    • Jared says:

      @Casey Leimbach especially if you live in a midwestern state like kansas

  • Solar God says:

    Been in solar for 7yrs and converted over 500 homes to solar . Tell you one thing you see more people age range 45-80 years old go solar . The younger generation doesn’t know what saving is until they get to retirement. I only signed up 3-5 people their 30’s and one person in their 20’s in the past 7yrs .

  • a k says:

    What happen soon hole over Antarctic Arctic????
    Why stupid since forgot about ozone hole???
    Why stupid society does not ask about ozone hole????
    Now new invention from sciences ……

    • Rishirishi Roopnarine says:

      Up your hole..

    • a k says:

      @Rishirishi Roopnarine ? Do you want to see my hole?
      Scientist want to see my hole???
      What scientist talking about?

  • George Swinsick says:

    Cool, bringing energy poverty to Florida 🔌💸

  • h2o-and-evs. com says:

    Ok let me get this straight. Your going to have land conservation by dedtroying it by covering most of Florida with solar panels. Second co2 doesn’t enter a 100 miles or so out into space. 3 co2 only for the most part extense what 15000 ft or so above the earth surface. That’s where vegitation stops growing. No co2.

    • David C says:

      Very small amounts of land overall needed to supply FL with power, as long as storage (battery) is used wisely.

    • h2o-and-evs. com says:

      @David C hi. Here at h2o-and- we’re big on power we don’t restrict ourselves in any way. With. batteries to keep up with demad how many whrs are need? I’ve seen some vids where 2 to 4 hrs they get out of them.

    • Neojhun says:

      @h2o-and-evs. com How about GIGA Watt Hours. The world’s biggest “batteries” are Mechanical, most notably Pump Hydro. But that requires specialized geography. The next big step is CAES or Solid Gravitation Mass. Hydrostor first ever demonstrator in Toronto was 660kw peak and just over 1MWH total. How much energy do you want? Tera Watt seems to be limit.

    • h2o-and-evs. com says:

      @Neojhun on my site. It reads.. You can never have to much power.

  • John Dallara says:

    Lose the We are killing ourselves via climate BS and just say Florida embracing the technology of the future. I think a large majority can get behind cleaner energy but once you shove climate crap down our throats you will lose that consensus and for what? What happens when some scientist writes a paper of the fact that all these solar panels are endangering the butt faced frog…..back to coal?

    • David C says:

      Coal is on its way down (and out) for good. At least in the US.

    • John Dallara says:

      @David C Sounds like a future odious turn for our friend the Butt faced frog.

  • james sullivan says:

    Do the house’s have solar water heater’s? My grandmother’s house did it was built in the 40’s in Miami.

  • William Resham says:

    Why didn’t the dumb NBC journalists ask him why they didn’t use distributed rooftop solar if they are so pro-solar? These are not journalists. And FPL wants to control it all, so they are not truly committed to solar and renewables if they are not allowing and promoting distributed rooftop solar. Stupid and hypocritical.

    • Patrick O says:

      It is because this was about the power company and the power company doesn’t make money if people have their own panels on their roofs. The power companies wants home solar to be illegal.

  • GroovyVideo2 says:

    I get All of my power from solar for 4 years works Great –

  • Frank Z says:

    Im in Canada and Im making solar work. Not a big system but good enough for 1 home .

  • M. G. says:

    Come on FPL… get to 150% off solar with some big batteries and rename yourself from Florida Power and Light to Florida Powered by Light. 🙂 You’re welcome. I know I am a marketing genius. You can forward me the check.

  • Biophilia says:

    They should be leveraging roofs more. Homes are already displacing green spaces so my not use roofs so they don’t have to build huge fields of panels. It would also be smart to disburse the solar grid to limit single points of failure due to natural disasters. Having all that said, I’m happy someone is doing something.

    • Biophilia says:

      @Rin I see room for choice here. Tap into the municipal solar grid, pay infrastructure costs and maintenance. Leverage your own roof, pay for equipment but receive credits for any power put on the grid. Everyone wins.

    • Peter S says:

      It’s called smart grids or another name is a decentralised grid, connected via the internet; or in some cases, there’s ‘mini’ grids that operate independently of the main grid. For example, you might have small rural & possibly remote communities where it isn’t economically viable for various reasons to be connected to the main grid so you might have a mix of rooftop solar & a small solar farm for local use only. Mains solar smart grids can look slightly different in different countries but what Tesla’s doing in Australia is a good e.g. of a decentralised grid & one that’s using their Autobidder software – which they’ve also applied for a UK licence for.

    • Biophilia says:

      @Peter S Yeah. That’s what we’re saying. Just less words. 🙂
      *edit* I wanted to make sure it’s clear I was poking fun as I would towards a friend. Sometimes things don’t come across when typed. ..

    • MEDIC MIKE says:

      @Rin Easy fix, it’s always about what’s in it for people. So offer them a monthly rebate for the use of their roof.

    • Rin says:

      @MEDIC MIKE i like that idea.

  • Greg Coste says:

    Florida (the Sunshine State) is the least friendly state for USER solar power .. the utility has (thru the state government) has prohibited home solar/wind installations .. it’s a paradox that the utility is now investing in solar (who wants to pay for coal/fossil fuel) but that is the new economics of grid-scale power generation; no one will finance fossil fuel plants.

    • MEDIC MIKE says:

      What they did is they tricked the voters by making them think what they were voting for was the very opposite of what they voted for. And the legislature did absolutely nothing to stop it.

  • Glen Last says:

    Good move, works well TILL THE STATE GOES UNDERWATER.

    • Jack White says:

      That won’t be til year quadrillion

  • DMESSER says:

    Florida alone could power the entire usa.

  • DMESSER says:

    These solar farms should be utilised as wildflower meadows also that can support masses of birds and insects. Also honey production could benefit massively.

    • Erik Schnese says:

      Pollination friendly solar racking is a thing, just under utilized

  • Mr M. says:

    Tesla powerpacks

  • David Dreyer says:

    Home Heating and Airconditioning only part of picture to eliminate greenhouse carbon dioxide. Transportation is a big user of foscil fuels. Conservation of energy in design. If you do not use as much to begin with you do not have to use as much energy in the end.🎯

    • Neojhun says:

      Failed Argument. This is a problem that has to attacked on all fronts. Humanity has actually made horribly little progress and we have to start somewhere. Each team or group of people should attack an area and learn to innovate as much possible. Then decades later when we have experience in multiple area, we sew them together into a P2P Grid.

  • Dirty DoughBoy says:

    I feel for them when a huge storm comes along and destroys the mirror set up..

  • I Nakasone says:

    This is what it’s all about!!! Think Green!!!

  • Name Name says:

    Why arent the so-called “Liberal” states like California investing in solar? Instead they blocked EV production (Tesla) even after gasoline-auto makers were allowed to restart and their Democrat governor Gavin Newsom is creating a fracking boom.

    • Tom Krywitsky says:

      California has almost 30GW of installed solar capacity. It’s the number one state for solar in terms of both installed capacity and growth rate.

  • larry Spiller says:

    Don’t worry guys, you will get overnight batteries very soon.

    • Neojhun says:

      Not just batteries but Mechical means of Energy Storage. The world’s biggest battery are Pump Hydro. But i think CAES is the next big leap.

    • larry Spiller says:

      @Neojhun what is CAES? Not disrespect to pumped hydro but its efficiency is quite low compared to batteries and perhaps other methods. It seems tesla has a new battery coming out. Might be quite impressive for storage

    • Neojhun says:

      @larry Spiller Efficiency is very different at different Scale. CAES is Compressed Air. We’re talking about facilities 2 order of magnitudes bigger that South Australia Tesla. 70% Efficiency is perfectly fine when you have a gigantic supply. It is not that important.

    • larry Spiller says:

      @Neojhun well the Australia plant is 100mWh and the largest pumped hydro is 3000mWh so more like 30x, not 100x but nevertheless a huge difference. The cost of these batteries is going to come down big time in the next 1-5 years and pumped hydro only makes sense in some places. Its definitely not a 1 size fits all.

    • Neojhun says:

      @larry Spiller
      Umm 3003MW is Peak Power. Total Capacity is roughly around 24,000MWH. It’s about 240x the capacity, though they hardly ever drain the whole capacity. At most they typically use is around 10,000MWH. CAES will work where Pump Hydro is not Plausible.

  • Howard Lee says:

    0:56 spotted some cute chinese writings on the wall

    • Neojhun says:

      Gah I can’t read chinese, I regret not learning. Wonder what that says.

    • Howard Lee says:

      @Neojhun it writes “boy, girl, big, small…” simple words for kids learning i think

  • Posi P says:

    When a tornado happens or any other natural disaster I rather be connected to nuclear power not a broken solar panel

  • Posi P says:

    Show me a solar panel installation or a wind power generation plant that doesn’t rely on natural gas

  • Jack White says:

    Can I rent out my roof for them to put solar panels on it

  • Pravina Fi says:

    What’s the best way to invest in solar energy? Tesla? Since it now owns Solar City.

  • phunnyfill says:

    Virtue signaling. FPL went solar for 1 reason and one reason only. It became profitable.

    • Walt says:

      Disagree. Lookup “greenwashing”.

  • Studio Harrison says:

    Why 2 parts?
    Why not add a card at the end to part 2?
    Someone needs to learn YouTube

  • EV Addicted says:

    This kind of news in the U.S. makes me really happy!!!!

  • order9066 says:

    “The science is in…”. Oh ok, then what is the precise amount of CO2 the Earth’s atmosphere should hold?

    • Silver Lining says:

      350 ppm or less.

  • Livin Trini says:

    Well done guys

  • ProServices FL says:

    Not sure what’s worse taking the land from native species or the fallout of coal or nuclear??????? That’s a huge piece of land what is the environmental impact. I’m all for solar but maybe we should find a smaller footprint????????

  • Blaze says:

    Why not use bloom energy bloom boxes.

  • Blaze says:

    Upgrade the electric grid

    EMP proof all of the grid

    Decentralize the grid

    Make it smart

    Use multiple sources of energy generation

    Utilize and invest in energy storage on a large scale.

    Install solar panels on every residential and commercial property, coat very window with thin photovoltaic cells.

    Use molten salt nuclear reactors

    Use bloom energy bloom boxes.

  • Will McKinty says:

    Such great news – you people are doing something momentus! Thank you from Canada 🇨🇦

  • SmartElectricCar says:

    Ontario Canada has 3x the amount of installed solar vs Florida’s 1.5GW. And it’s nowhere near as sunny here. What’s the delay about Florida?!?

    • Kami Sama says:

      Republicans control the state of Florida’s government Republicans are predominantly climate change deniers.

  • Robert Smith says:

    Much of the solar and wind generation should only be used as DC and the battery packs the size of buildings. Many of the things we use are already running on DC but use transformers/rectifiers to convert it to AC. Manufacturers of products can easily make DC power devices, refrigerators, AC units, and every electronic thing that we use. Lighting is no problem and the DC systems will have to be standardized with a common voltage. Keep up the efforts. . . . .

    • Neojhun says:

      Yes freaking yes, HVDC inside a building. Rumor is Tesla is working on a DC HVAC system. Just having a few central inverters on system input and output. Motors & Pumps are straight DC, making them much more efficient.

  • Alex Kunze says:

    Until a Hurricane takes it all out?

    • Neojhun says:

      BOO! blantant Ignorance. Hurricane Maria only took out about 1/3 of panels in existing arrays on Puerto Rico. Sure it knocked out power for a few days, but once clean up and rewiring was done. Solar was the one thing that was quick to come back online. There is THOUSANDS of Redundant Panels, smart wiring allows multiple paths. This just means massive redundancy. Gas Turbine & Nuclear Reactors are way worse because they are centralized massive units and being knocked out is much harder to recover from.

  • Niels Raider says:

    Ooh my God thats a disaster!

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  • Malikar001 says:

    Al I can see is verdant land replaced by industrial solar panels… 😦. Too much hype over the destruction of wildlife habitat and greenery. This is environmental?

    • Neojhun says:

      You fool, you just igrnored massive the entire first part. Massive part of the development was to take over Private Land and split it into Nature Preserve then use a Fraction of it to turn into low impact Township. Your comment is horribly ignorant.

    • Malikar001 says:

      @Neojhun no, I think your comment is more thoughtless. They could have made it even more low impact. Perhaps with wind turbines. Other options exist too. Some more palatable than others.

      It seems older environmentalists cared more about land overuse than newer environmentalists. But what does this fool know.

  • Jonathan Palmquist says:

    Michael Moore would be so confused if he saw this.

  • Mack Fisher says:

    Is it true that Florida residents are not allowed to stall their own solar panels on their home.

  • Peter S says:

    The one criticism I have of this project & others like it, is they totally clear ALL of the vegetation from underneath the panels thus preventing carbon sequestration & instead, allowing the opposite. There are good examples where with properly designed projects, the land isn’t scraped bare & instead is used for crop production & or livestock grazing. These not only promote sequestration but prevent poor farmers from being evicted from the land in favour of those with deep pockets & where farming has become uneconomical in say, the developed world, but people wish to preserve their current way of life, solar & wind projects make it possible.

  • Peter S says:

    Utter rubbish that you need natural gas to backup renewables as one interviewee asserted. That’s what grid scale battery storage is for. It also is not only far more responsive than fossil fuel peaker plants but also tremendously advantageous, financially speaking. Just ask California who’ve recently demolished their last gas fired peaked plant & are in the process of installing grid scale battery storage from Tesla & 2 other companies. Additionally, the Hornsdale battery in South Australia is another good example & a highly profitable one.

  • the DOS says:

    Florida will be underwater. I live in Tampa and every year to 2 years we have floods that give us 3 feet of standing flooding water. This place is garbage and the government here doesn’t do anything about it.

  • Peter S says:

    It seems counterintuitive to industrialise the rural environment without 1st making best use of the existing built infrastructure; in this instance that would be the rooftops of the housing, businesses & carparking areas. Surely this is an obvious 1st step & one that appears to have largely been ignored. To be clear; I’m not against grid scale solar but just happen to think that humanity, in our attempts to transition to a fully sustainable energy supplied species, should choose the low hanging fruit 1st.

  • Carl Rice says:

    This is definitely the future of solar in Florida, massive, utility owned sun farms while home solar is hamstrung by corporate lobbyists and a compliant legislature.