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The future of the Falkland Islands is being discussed again, after they were excluded from trade deals between the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The British overseas territory will not be part of any commercial, tax or customs agreements negotiated.
And, as Al Jazeera’s Teresa Bo reports, Argentina’s government sees an opportunity.
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Britain claimed the Falklands before Argentina was even a country.
@Dietrich Coco Actually they are correct Britain most certainly did end the international slave trade. Freetown in Sierra Leone is full of the descendants of freed slaves from slave ships that Britain caught. Britain paid in money and blood to achieve this. It was a moral u turn that Britain can be proud of. No one else was prepared or able to do it.
@Alistair Nash now that you said they paid in money…where did the money went? Look up Barclays…just out of curiosity. the money spent was used to drown the newly freed people in an economic slavery. and what u turn are you talking about… just last year , xxi century, the UK government was deporting Black british born citizens, most without having committed any crime other than being children of the Windrush generation.
@BuildingAbout I’m talking about the money used to fund the anti slavery drive and also the lost profit from no longer participating in the abhorrent trade. The blood was paid in the deaths of the sailors that served. The liberty was in the lives lived of those that had freedom restored. This is the moral U turn of which I speak. I’m not talking about Windrush I don’t know anyone who thinks that was anything less than a disgrace.
And I’m really not sure who you want Britain to take in feed and house. Do you mean caribians or maybe black Americans. Should we force them to come? Or just invite them? I have a spare room. Have you got a spare room? Anyone else got a spare room?
@ben jones The British only advocated ending slavery knowing France would be opposed to the idea. They then used this as an excuse to attack France. I know it doesn’t fit your narrative but it is true. Try learning an additional language besides English. This is a widely accepted fact in the Spanish and French speaking world. Pero si prefieres seguir de tonto ignorante como el resto de tus compatriotas, pues adelante.
@Hank O. I never said that it wasn’t true, I simply stated we outlawed it first and enforced its abolishment which again is a fact. Whether we used that as an excuse beat up the French and spain Is irrelevent, besides they were second rate powers by that time anyway. Britian could and did attack who it pleased. Also FYI it very bigoted of you to assume I dont know another language. Mis esposa es española estoy aprendiendo el idioma
the brits made it beautiful like they made the usa beautiful or canada or australia or new zealand etc.pp before they gave them the independence
@Hank O. you answered your own question???
@Ken Fu Don’t worry, you will soon know what it feels like to be that poor and irrelevant! The EU is slowly choking the British economy! Have a good day, my chav friend. Greetings from Ireland!
@Yee Tian What a load of nonsense! The natives are basically all dead from disease in Jamaica and Belize. India used to be the largest economy in the world. It is not anymore. The British totally screwed these places. The sun will never set on the British Empire because not even God could trust the British in the dark! HA!
@Hank O. have a great day old chap
@Hank O. India has never been the largest economy in the history. It was China which was called Qing dynasty. British Empire can still manipulate the world through social media because…..they are using English.
Poor argentines, they still living in this dreams and fantasies that those islands is theirs.
@Ben Ghazi I don’t think you got any of it, but one thing is for sure, the occupation of the Falklands has nothing to do with democracy. But I’m afraid it’s going to be a long discussion that won’t be of any use to anyone, so let’s use your phrase: case closed.
@Hilde Toepoel Occupation? What kind of bias drivel is that. Are you able to be objective? It doesn’t seem like it.
@Ben Ghazi Listen one last reaction, but then we really have to stop, because you are so brainwashed, I can’t argue with that, but here is my example and think about it, or read your own history carefully. When Russia or China took possession of a piece of land, they pushed their own people into it. She made sure that one land owned by another was inhabited by their people. They called this democracy. Shall we say business closed? Good luck and wisdom for the rest of your life.
@Hilde Toepoel Not the perfect example as Russia and China displaces ethnic groups and replaces them with their own.
The Falklands where not inhabited when the English landed on them. So who should the UK give them to?
And don’t conflate Russia’s and China’s shams with a free and fair referendum. Democracy is non negotiable.
You are not sitting on a high horse when you can’t argue for your point. You are not objective. Now go away.
@Ben Ghazi I find this strange when I get too close to reality I have to leave. As a non-Englishman, am I supposed to tell you your history? Who do you think the Russians and the Chinese adopted this system. You just need to take note of the rise and fall of the British Empire. You get it in black and white from your own historians. I’m not making up anything and I’m not led by misplaced chauvinism. Once again let my comments cause you to take a critical look at the past of your country, there is nothing wrong with that, in fact I think you are a better patriot than the slavish hangers-on who are being abused by populists.
Blame your people! They voted to leave. The 3 thousand British will of to be relocated to England 🏴
Come and try it the Argentinians failed in 1982 they’ll fail again.
@Anglosaxon Demise they’ll stay where they are They built America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand
Ain’t ever going to happen.
@Abbadon380 they wouldnt get close this time. Last time it was hardly defended… terrible planning by thatcher’s government. They made up for it in the conflict… but if they had bothered to properly keep it defended when they knew they had a military dictator right on its doorstep.. probably wouldn’t have been falks war and would have saved lots of lives on both sides.
No good comes from stealing other peoples countries.
UK didn’t think the Brexit trough for real…..
@Lies Tricks “… Life outside the EU is difficult that’s why it was set up in the first place, to make things easier. THe real world is that the only one making things difficult for the UK is the UK and now its throwing a tantrum because its not as special as it thought it was”
So the EU was caught lying about Astrazeneca effectiveness in over 65s, despite the clinical trials? Then the EU accuses the UK of blocking vaccine exports to other countries and EU diplomats have been summoned to the UK to explain this fallacy.
You’re right, this isn’t at all the EU being unreasonable! That’s just the world being such a hard place in your mind isn’t it?
@a b And still no substance…
I think you would benefit from reading your previous reply. It contains everything I mentioned and just like this one lacks substance.
I’m out.
@TJ Marx hehe, I love it every time I see this stupid example!
No one is following UK, and they are more United than they have been in the history.
But again it’s the only defense you have so you have to continue convincing yourself.
Good luck with it,
@TJ Marx of course you are out, you have no arguments. 👨🌾
@Atlas Network The AZ vaccine was barely tested in that age group when it was rolled out. So giving it to that age group without further reassurance could have been pointless and risky.
AZ/UK did block vaccine exports to the EU by stating the UK had first dibs because they ordered earlier. This was contrary to the AZ/EU contract that stated vaccines could be supplied from the UK and there was no conflict with any other obligation for AZ.
So yeah if you try to get by halfassing your job and breaking contracts things can get hard.
Good.
Settlers are going to war with each other.
I like that.
@Ben Ghazi inhabivader
@garytech a few thousand people.. you think the UK cannot provide a few thousand people with income and provisions? It would have no affect… the Island is mostly military anyway… it has settlers, but not beyond what the UK can provide for. Argentina is in no position to “strangle” the islands.
Plus thanks to agy aggression in the 80s.. no UK PM can hand them back any time soon… it would be politically impossible…. so not happening. It only could have happened if 1982 invasion hadn’t happened and Arg didn’t make the claim so loudly and aggressively, but instead tried to befriend the islanders…. if Argentina had been a more successful nation economically and politically… yes, it could have enticed the Falks to Arg with a promise of dual nationality and then eventually joint control over the islands through diplomacy with the UK… thats the way to get the islands!!! 🙂 Not by having a dodgy military dictatorship… invading and subjecting the population of the island to mass imprisonment. But now its been invaded and people have died…. no chance!
@Joe Cat Good argumentation
I rest my case.
@garytech the islanders still are a few thousand people who have lived there hundreds of years, thus have the right to self determination. Plus Argentina has no claim. Thus they are British, unless the inhabitants want to be Argentinian or independent. That is still the case even if yes.. the UK bolstered their military on the islands following 1982.
I wonder if Russia or China would be tempted to help Argentina
This is just a shake down by Mauritius for cash, Britain has already paid for the islands twice. Plus it’s the US that use the islands most, so good luck UN you’ll need it.
Only one island is used. The UK could give back the others and not infringe on any security for their precious base.
The U.K compensated the chagosians after evicting them from their homes without consent and won’t let them return.
Do conservatives of United kingdom still think Brexit was a good idea,idiots the only reason United kingdom was keeping its power status was and is European Union ,you guys forgot how uk economically was falling miserably in 1973 , it was EU that save you guys,now choke on your stupid decision.
Latin america should conquer this island.
@BuildingAbout It was uninhabited you dimwit, who did they colonise exactly? You know what the word means right?
The Falkland war said otherwise, and now Argentina isn’t even in its peak back in 1980s, it got no chance against U.K
Latin America is a mess it should handle its own affairs before attempting a fight against the greatest Empire that ever existed
@BuildingAbout _”they are mixed races tho…”_ So cut them in half first.
@bob lanes You’re right, I’m half Bolivian & Brazilian with mixed Amerindian (Aymara) and European (German/Italian) ethnicity living in London
If joined, Argentina will devour all of the Falkland Islands’ treasures. Less profit for Europe in exchange for Argentina’s economic bail? Who knows
A change in tradeoportunities /tradingbenefits is not a change in posession. I guess the Argentinians see to much in it.
And as for the Falklands beeing surprised, well I remeber a German TV report about Brexit in guess was 2018 (latest 2019) where they described the results of Brexit for overseas territorys from UK. So I wounder why it is a surprise to tham, cause a foringer knew about the risks and they themself diden’t? Or well maybe they tought Westminster or former fischery representative from UK for fischerycomission Farage when still in EU, would care for tham and negotiate during the Freetradeagreement talks, and they got dissapointed by Westminster and Farage. But if they wanne blame EU – it just shows, that they dont understand Brexit. Eu cares for ist memberstates and its population, and with Brexit UK is outside.
EU is deliberately being belligerent regarding the trade situation. It goes beyond “caring for 1st states”.
@Joe Cat No Sir it does not go beyond careing for 1st staes by EU, its absence of caring for overseas territorys vital income interests by UK. May I explain how I got to this result? To proof your impression, please show me any other third country , wich is treated better. Wich is permitted to send its goods, specialy food sector, specialy fishery into the single market / customs union without having a trade deal listing this seafood and its source/fishinggrounds or quality or quota.
Dear Mr Cat to give Falkland seafood acsess is not impossible, but your negotiators have to prioritysed it (enough) and have to be willing either to give addition benefits to EU or to skip some benefits they have reciefed. for the falklands advantage.
We both where not in the negotiation webconferenz or rooms, but we can see, that Falklands seafood is not listed. So UK did not care for it enough, specialy if its comes to a surprise for the Falklandseafood buisiness. Takking in account that the negotiation took years and UK had not provided any information for tham in advance should make tham suspissious about their leaders doings. No Sir it does not go beyond careing for 1st staes by EU, its absence of caring for overseas territorys vital income interests by UK.
@H Fricke I believe you are wrong. The eu are playing political and economic games. it is no secret.
@Andrew Mcateer ?
*Falkland Islands🇦🇷*
@CHARLY IUZDI 🤣
@Abbadon380 wow, you really don’t know your history don’t you. Tmay in 1982?
@CHARLY IUZDI blah blah blah more Drivel. Understand this FALKLANDS UK 🇬🇧
You sound a right delight ❤️
@Abbadon380 digna respuesta de un ladron sin argumentos
Now UK you have your fish for yourself. Literally.
@Joe Cat Please tell us how Brussels controlled us?
@Gary Outdated? Brexit has set Britain back decades.
@Gary Of course some things will take longer when we cooperate with many countries… what do you suggest not cooperating at all like the UK?
But the UK has problems of it’s own, they got more Covid-19 cases than even Italy so i wouldn’t start bragging about your system being better than the EUs.
Remoaners gonna remoan.
@Mark Hawkins Do you really not understand how, or are you just another EuroPrick. The Commission issues dictates on most areas of activity from food to transport, immigration and employment. Their regulations are transformed into laws by the individual states. Failure to comply results in punishment. For example, Poland and Hungry are on the “Naughty Step” because they will not tow the line on immigration and are also blocking the E.U budget.
Argentina lost the 1982 war because they thought US would support them. Hahahahaha
And we are loosing out now because of similar thoughts ha ha ha
@Scooby dont Touche. 🙂
@Joe Cat And the operation the UK came up with to do a bombing raid before the navy arrived was pretty crazy. Search for “Operation Black Buck” and you’ll see what I mean.
Not as crazy as it sounds. The US was busy backing right-wing dictatorships all over South America for most of the 20th century. Argentina just maybe didn’t realize the US only cared about them so long as said right-wing dictatorship was suppressing leftist movements.
They’re much better at Soccer
Both nations are European occupiers. Neither have a real claim to the island.
Who does? Penguins?
@ben jones It was inhabitated by penguins. They are the real native people
@lucius1976 Give the penguin natives their island back.
Ok but that means the penguins get to have a seat at the UN.
@Alistair Nash Its their land, I think it would only be fair. 😆
Technically France has more of a clam to these island than Argentina since they first established a colony on the island in 1764, one year before the British found the islands 1765. Though in this case when the France lost the settlement in the 7 years war, they didn’t really care.
So at the end of the day, why does Argentina clam the islands, I can not find a reason? 😕
Going way back, the territory was discovered by Fernão de Magalhães, responsible for the first circumnavigation of the Earth. He was Portuguese, but he was working for Spain at the time. Spain never ceded the islands, until the independence of Argentina, which inherited the territories of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata
Stfu european
Brexit is sh*t. I will also never understand fighting over land. Feels retrograde. Living on an island such as Great Britain, you feel the waters define your borders, and the United Kingdom is as one. Except for s**t Brexit messing up Irish relations again, of course, XD.
It was about refugees and sovereignty.
@Rallan China bot. We will rather have democracy than China bots.
@Maniae Official That’s what you thought.
@Maniae Official I really believe every country should always welcome refugees and asylum seekers, including my own UK. I really wish we were doing more than we are, to help other people, in their time of need. Am sure our society would directly and immediately benefit too, including economically.
No one with a working brain could believe that the Falklands do not belong to Argentina. Dude, they are literally 140 km from the Argentine coast.
Lol, no way will we give up the Falklands. The Falklanders want to stay British and the Argentinian claim is legally ridiculous. As for the EU, the worst case cut in Falklands fishing profit is a miniscule amount of money that could easily be covered by UK gov support if necessary.
@Seno Alamsyah huh? most of those nations aren’t bigger than the UK. Only US, China and Japan is bigger economically.. I dont think you understand the size of the UK. For example UK is nearly twice as big as S. Korea, Canada and Australia’s economies… and nearly as big as India’s. The trade deal the EU signed with the UK is the biggest it has ever signed with any nations ever! at 700 billion pounds. We are not dependent on the EU like you believe we are… yes.. we are currently aligned and that causes a headache for now as we have business that has supply lines that depend on the current arrangement … but we are aligning with pacific nations going forward… they are growing much faster than the EU. When we join we’ll be the 2nd largest economic power in that arrangement.. until the US join, obviously. I think you just look on a map and think we’re a small island :):):)
You are mistaken… the EU is a protectionist unwieldy bloc in a rapidly growing world that is being left behind because of the fact. The EU’s size will protect it somewhat if it keeps itself together.. it could do internal trade… but its not the dynamic or most profitable place to be going forwards… you will see soon. We would have been happy to stay in the eu if not for the opaque nature and lack of safe guards.
If someone gave me total control of the eu and said my job was to save it… very first action I’d do would be to reduce it quickly back to the EEC… although I would strengthen cooperative voluntary military cooperation in a defensive capacity. I would then produce a massive drive through the EEC to promote the arrangement and then hold EEC wide referenda on membership to ensure EU wide public consent… I would denounce the origional EU as lacking that and lacking transparency. The I’d hold EU wide referenda on the type of EU that should exist and how it should work.. including immigration safe guards… how new nations enter the bloc.. expansion target… what permissions should be sought from the EU electorate and how things should be democratically represented and connected to the electorate. That would make the whole structure more sound and solid.
@Joe Cat By then they are bankrupt. Nothing is done until now… We have almost end of march. You can’t find internal markets for it, because in order to sell it in the UK it has also to get cleaned. So you have to changed you food laws… Which could be tricky since that would mean that you will have lower standards than the EU… Which also means that copied trade deals that references to that law may become nullified.
@Alexei Stryker no…. The EU and UK will continue to trade… both sides have no choice. They can impose frictions to try to punish the other side but if either pulled away firstly they’d be in breach of world trade (it would amount to sanctions that cannot be imposed without the UN…. a state cannot intervene and ban business trading with another nation, which i believe is what you are talking about) secondly the EU simply has no choice.. it cannot forgo 700 billion of trade out of its economy per year that is already trade its business depends upon.. nations would go bust in the EU.. the EU would disintegrate (imagine the argument about who would cover that!!!!) when the massive extra investment to cover it wouldn’t happen. The UK economy is projected by experts to grow by 7% after covid is done and we will be out of it soon due to our vaccine progress … The UK is still one of the world best places for investment as recently rated by 5000 business. You really believe that the UK government would take the country into bankruptcy … ??? The tories are the best with the economy…. they have experts … we know how much leverage we have….. and more importantly we know how much the EU actually has. But its not the UK cutting the EU off… its the EU trying to make brexit look bad. Thats actually not a clever way to go… a better approach would have been try try to make the British situation look unique.
The EU is a shrinking proportion of global trade and we are linking up with the fastest growing bit unrestricted by the EU. Whilst the EU is bigger.. we are still big and much much more flexible and quicker. Our power and GDP isnt from the EU… its from our institutions , education level and infrastructure… its from our global reach which is far greater than just the EU.
@Alexei Stryker oh.. maybe you were just talking about fishing? In that case, no they wont be bankrupt.. because they are a tiny amount of GDP and the UK gov will back them until a solution is found… there are no issues with propping up little industries like that. Only massive ones. The reason its impossible to import into the EU is because their industry uses Brit waters which are below the necessary grade.. meaning the sea food needs to be cleaned at plants that only exist in the EU. The industry can no longer access those plants due to red tape at eu level… and now we need to build our own at a cost of 1 million pounds. Industry says it cannot afford the investment but the brit government certainly could with state aid… it likely will as it has currently been backing the fishing up with state aid.
@Joe Cat yeah because UK was still in the EU when they are bigger economicly.
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The UK is starting to learn what a 3rd country is outside of the EU.
@King Crusader Thanks, at least you don’t try to cover by pseudo-economic unicorns why you voted for brexit.
@lucius1976 we’re very happy with him.. he’s very high on the polls as he’s standing up to all that nasty eu bullying thats going on.
@Lies Tricks yes… the vaccine program was possible….. the one the eu told you to have. The eu is warning states no to go their own way on vaccines. They would have done the same to us and taken our jabs.
@Rallan UK …vaccines ?:)) Doesn’t Uk have the biggest death toll , over 125.000 of death people in entire Europe ? UK is worst country in entire Europe when it comes to Covid and the only country that still brags about a vaccine that was banned all around Europe lmao
@Rallan “If necessary we can deploy our military (the biggest in Europe)”
You must be joking, the latest ranking puts you well behind Russia and behind France.
And don’t expect any support from the EU this time, 27 countries will vote against the UK in the UN.
Always will be British argentine navy and army already know this lol
the UK will gradually lose its whole empire. England has no business being in South America. South America for south americans!
@Jason W. you wish.
@Jason W. Lol your too busy leaving to Tey to enter America
@Jason W. Why not? We have a blood right to it? Were the most deserving as we conquered the most
That’s how Divine conquest works. You’re even speaking the culture of it
Try it Argentina and see how many you lose this time
Oh, i dont like your colonial tone. UK cant efford a war with Argentina. Nobody will support you in it, not EU not US. Plus with Boris as chief there is relative good chance to loose it. Clowns…
@Vladinek Januška hahahaha we wouldn’t lose it would be way easier than the first time Argentina is a mess and the military has somehow got worse in 40 years. That said I don’t advocate war as a solution for this problem or any really if it can be helped.
@Vladinek Januška we don’t need help lol didn’t first time and definitely won’t this time
@Vladinek Januška east Europeans should learn some history and basic politics before making comments
@Catarina Jerez Ah history? Like Munchen betrayal from Chamberlain? Or our departure to Soviet influence for 40 years after WW2 signed by Churchil? We didnt forgot, dont worry.
Argentina believes they are entitled to them because they added them to their constitution. The British Parliament should pass a resolution that Argentina belongs to the crown and thus Argentina would then be an overseas territory of the crown and conquer it. Problem solved. Argentina has the islands and the crown has Argentina.
MI6 bot is that you?
@Jason W. Busted! LOL!
In your dreams
@Franco Cari Of course, but it’s more valid for the British to claim Argentina belonging to the crown because it is 300+ miles from the Falklands than Argentina claiming the Falklands when they are 300+ miles away from Argentina because Argentina wasn’t even a nation before the British had already settled and were living in the Falkland Islands.
@Jack T that’s not even a argument
Brexiteers didn’t care about the UK economy so why they would worry about Falkland ???
@Jerry Orange no.. there was no mad hate for the eu… only once the eu started insulting brexit and threatening people. it tends to have that affect on people.
@Jerry Orange it doesnt matter if someone you voted for voted for something else that you are unaware of… that doesnt make it democratic… the process is opaque and therefore the people involved are unaccountable. The people of the UK instinctively knew this and thus voted brexit. We are right… you are wrong and this will become more and more clear going forwards.
@Joe Cat … the eu started insulting brexit and threatening people. .
This something new to me. Go on. What are those insults and threats??
@Joe Cat – oh really no mad hate.
the EUssr, protective rocket, unelected bureaucrats and so on and on.
@Jerry Orange First off as you may think WTO rules would be way worse. Current issues AND tariffs AND quotas. WTO basically establishes the bare minimum standards of trade between countries with no trade deals.
Secondly the WTO itself may be moving against the UK soon since the UK is violating its ruleset. The UK is currently waving in one 3rd party’s goods (EU) into the country without physically checking them, but not offering the same benefit to the other 3rd countries. They’re going to demand reparations or penalize the UK, whether it be by tariffs or even sanctions. Back when this violation was short (<6 months,) it was not worth pursuing. WTO doesn't move all that quickly. But now that the UK announced they're extending it, perhaps for years, the game is on.
Demands are quite simple. Check EU goods and thereby subject critical imports like food to the same export delays the UK is currently suffering. Drop checks on all 3rd countries, thereby flooding the home market with competitive, unregulated goods, undercutting home industries. Don't do either and begin eating tariffs and even sanctions.
MALVINAS
We all know it’s belong to Argentina how can falkland islands be for UK
have no claim.
read a book maybe
Well, how can Guam 🇬🇺 belong to the USA and not Micronesia 🇫🇲? Look how far away Guam is from the USA.
How can Greenland 🇬🇱 belong to Denmark and not Canada? 🇨🇦 Look how far away Greenland is from Denmark.
Good luck trying to persuade the USA to give up Guam…
How so?
Gum?
but even in th Falklands the Brits have funny teeth?
fake news… 🙂
In-breeding.
We call them dancing teeth 🤣
@Keyboard Dancers UK has one of those most diverse populations in the world. Was invaded by the whole of Europe… before it started invading.
UK, get out of Falkland Island!
Brexit means Brexit
Whatever that means!
@Keyboard Dancers Commersial suicide
And a hard one at that ! as apposed to s soft Briexit .
Schadenfreude
They’re a British PROTECTORATE and they will be protected and as long as the Falklanders want it to remain that way it WILL remain that way
Well said
Toodle pips old chap.
Protected how? UK navy boats sink as soon as they hit open ocean, even without rented US fighter jets on it.
Argentina is a MESS, the economy is bad and corruption is endemic, and they want to bring this poverty and corruption to the Falklands.
The first on seems to be right, but then the other comes, and he in turn puts him to the test.
EU dont be jealous Great Britain has always dominated every corner in the world,before you born 🇬🇧
Spanish have been dominated every corner of the world before Great Britain born
The dutch owned the world – but they didn’t like it and sold it.
EU don’t give a F about UK.
Because UK was a member with US agenda, now is Poland.
US upset about brexit they can’t anymore playing on EU politics via UK.
Since UK moved EU and China more close.
Empires erea are finish, now is block trade erea.
UK don’t have any block.
Nothing more stupid than brexit, maybe a brexiteer
@Dietrich Coco I think you’ll find that isn’t entirely accurate considering the trade deal the eu just signed with the uk is the biggest they have ever signed in their whole history. 700 billion quid! its a lot.
I remember great britain killed blacks ancestors for gold and diamond.hoho. you are silly to support GB
All of these must be stopped any illegal occupancies by our ancestor should be revokesd and returned to the natives. This is the real Democracy and Human rights prevailed
The natives in this case are penguins. How do we pick which penguin to put in charge?
where do the hundreds of millions of people living there go then? And what about the ones with genetic heritage of both types of people? It gets complicated 🙂 say you move 380 million back to Europe … where do they live? what would happen to their houses where they live? you do realise the economy of their nation would collapse and there would be a massive humanitarian crisis in all nations … nice plan… hopefully you are not seriously of the belief this is something practical that can be done. We say this to make a point though.. the world is how it is today and we have to live with it…. we cannot demand x,y,z because of history when people have lived where they are for centuries. Although in case of the falks even history doesn’t back up the Argentinian claims to the falks.
Mientras sigan perteneciendo al UK serán un lugar próspero. Si llega el gobierno argentino, la riqueza que tienen se la robará la sra K. Y sus amiguitos. Y las Fakland serán miserables
Do the residents of Falkland Islands wants to switch the British pound to the Argentine peso. I think not
I think they want to change the pound for the euro! Maybe become French, or Spanish?
I remember the Falklands islands competed in the Sydney Olympics in 2000, they didn’t win, but they were cheered on for competing as members of the commonwealth, now who wants to upset 26 million Australians?
@Seno Alamsyah 1.4Bn Chinese.
@TJ Marx ok
270 million Indonesian and 1.4 billion Chinese that can upset Australia.
@Seno Alamsyah The Australian-Indoneasa relationship is stronger than ever. Indonesia is pretty upset about China too and they’re looking to Australia.
So just the 1.4Bn Chinese. But also apparently 445M EU citizens as well who think it’s ok to steal vaccines from Australia.
1 Australian is worth 50 Europeans though so I think we can take them.
@TJ Marx Yes but a kangaroo is worth a hundred. and a koala….
@TJ Marx I’m Indonesian myself my friend. And i just answered his question “who want to upset Australian?”. Indonesian like we upset them when we executed the Bali 9 duo. And Chinese who raise Tarif for Australian product and i forgot the European thank for remind me. So yeah basicly they are a lot country who can make Australian upset after all
This stupid uk how do they need some ones land
ITS their Land.
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The Falkland Islands is a gory example of British Imperialism. Caught between Argentine and British Imperialism.
Argentine imperialism? Where did that come from? Argentina has been a subject of an empire, not an empire itself.
That said, the claim over the islands is ludicrous at best. There has been a referendum in the past, with 99% voting in favor of remaining a part of the UK. It’s inhabited by British, it’s not a colony or a military base. You can’t simply ignore these people and determine they’re actually Argentinian overnight.
@Guilherme Daquer You are not Argentine, you are a Spanish refugee. Bye!!!
@Pra2503 – whatever
Boludeces
Hope the island goes belly up financially and the anglos is forced to evacuate by the argentinians
Brexit means economic hardship and the breakup of the UK…. and also Brexit.
Proposed solution:
Sovereignty over Malvinas to be returned to Argentina in exchange for the right of abode for the 3000 islanders and a high degree of political autonomy.
The islanders can continue to live on the island and exercise autonomy over all political aspects except defence and foreign policy which will be maintained by Argentina.
Any politician brave enough to proffer such a deal for a lasting and peace settlement between UK and Argentina?
@Tim Smith no way! If you think politically the tory gov could sacrifice the falks for cash and get away with it… not in a million years. If you believe they could you haven’t the best gauge on politics. They would be absolutely politically destroyed. Before deciding if a party could do that you have to look at their voter base… they would never accept the falks being handed over to Argentina in a million gazillion years…. it would be absolute and total political suicide. The only people who would allow that to happen in the UK would be likely hardcore lefty types who are ashamed of Britain and its history and would want to do something like that. They are more likely to vote labour.. not tory. But their number is very small in the general population of the UK. You have to remember that before 1982 the falks mostly meant very little to Brits…. most Brits didnt even know where it was… some even thought it was off Scotland. After 1982… every Brit knew where it was and it was deeply woven into the British consciousness.
@Tim Smith _”Boris sold the DUP and Northern Irish unionists down the river.”_ Maybe the solution would be for Britain to cede sovereignty of Northern Ireland over to the Republic and give Britain a 99-year lease, backdated to 1922. What do you think?
@Tim Smith they haven’t sold the dup. NI is still in the UK and if the eu try to take it through trade barriers they’ll find out that the protocol is ditched in short order.
@Joe Cat : But trade between NI and GB has been made more complicated and more expensive by Brexit, and NI consumers will soon be buying most of their food and goods from Ireland instead of from GB, because it’s cheaper. The DUP did not want this because it creates greater integration between the NI economy and the Irish economy, and therefore lays the groundwork for future Irish reunification.
@PatchesRips canadiense comparando situaciones que poco o nada tiene que ver, que se puede esperar
Good to know Argentina is still salty they lose Falkland
That Mauritius island was military base Falkland have people living in it they are crazy if they think it I’s same as Mauritius
Before to make a comment just Google.
Chagos Island had people, UK “renting” for the US to make a military base.
Brexit is the most suptid decision since human create wheel.
@Dietrich Coco Yeah how am I wrong chaggos island don’t have residents they were evicted and Falkland had resident who want to be with UK I say the Argentina argument is bad
theres oil in the vicinity.
Cooking oil
Argentina must capture falklands island
Capture it with what? Words? Good Luck
They tried that once got beat and thrown out in 1982 by the Iron Lady they can try again and fail again.
Why?
The Argentine armed forces are in a far worse state than the UK’s. Particularly the Argentine Navy.
Wonder if the Iron Lady had a full on 80s bush ?
The Iron Lady garden 🪴 x
Well, Falkland, Channel Islands etc. were never part of EU (or UK) anyway and UK always emphazised they run their own affairs. Why complain? EU made a withdrawal agreement with the UK not some obscure islands that were never part of EU. Anyway, you could not expect the EU to think of them if the UK forgot them
uk didnt forget them.. it was the eu trying to make things difficult in the negotiation
@Joe Cat Lie to yourself if you feel better about it
So what happens to the Dutch and French overseas territory…then? You moron
Welcome to independence. 🦄
we love it.
@Joe Cat Please tell us what you can do now that you couldn’t whilst in the EU?
We will not allow it 🇦🇷
@Luciano Falklands are British, next time we will make sure you have no country to come back to 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧…….
Another proposal
Sovereignty to be co-shared by UK and Argentina under UN auspices or under direct UN mandate.
Islanders to continue with their existing way of life while political negotiations take place between UK, Argentina and the islanders.
While negotiations are underway, sovereignty over Malvinas or Falklands could be rotated every 6 months between UK and Argentina, like in the case of Pheasant Island between France and Spain.
Argentina must recognise the islanders’ right of abode on the islands while UK must recognise Argentina’s territorial claims.
Islanders must also recognise that they are living in contested territories and a permanent and just resolution is in the best interests of all parties, especially the islanders.
A successful resolution of this issue shall serve as a template for Gibraltar, Ceuta and many other disputed territories.
I am not part of a foreign policy establishment from any country. I am interested in conflict resolution and how it can promote reconciliation and lasting peace.
If a claim has little no merit then why would anyone want to negotiate with that party. Simply claiming something should not entitle negotions otherwise you could pull out a fake map with a dashed line and start stealing other people’s islands.
you have to remember the islanders were invaded and occupied at gun point by the argentines…. do you really believe they want to do that? The islanders would reject it. They dont want to be ruled / controlled or administered by Argentina.
Desperate EU.
This isn’t about the Falklands its about London and the financial market. The UK/London uses much of its overseas territories as tax havens. If the EU refuses to make a distinction it means those territories would have to play by the same rules as London for the EU to give market access for financial services
not sure how you would use an island with 2000 people on it as a tax haven… it doesn’t have any major business. Its not got any major banking… well, not the falks anyway.
@Joe Cat As I said its not about the Falklands that’s just there because of oil/gas, though you don’t need a large population or business for to put a bank some where. They’ve already done it with the Cayman islands, The British Virgin Islands and Bermuda. In fact those are the top 3 tax havens. And what is the EU cracking down on
The the problem with tax avoidance, you pretend the business is there but shhhh it’s really here
Well I just hope that is not the case.
Tide has gone out and who is not wearing panties.,… just wonderful
why would they have a vote anyway , we should send a load of asylum seekers over there just for being cheeky
We should ?
You can personally, but you have no authority Jackie weaver
Such a JOKE! People still calling a tiny useless nation of refugees “Great” Britain! Instead Britan. Seems some morons are still living in the colonial era. Wakeup holes! Say good morning to your Chinese and Indian masters! Time for the next shift
pathetic attempt
Smelly cow worshipper thinks they are relevant 🤣🤣🤣
The Falklands were British long before Argentina was recognised as a country
Colonization is bad m’kay.
@Pisto Lero 2010 jokes again
@Catarina Jerez
No, even before that.
Uk wants to remain united as “United kingdom”. But when it came to brexit, the plan was: “England alone policy”.
Exactly. Double standards.
The Falkland Islands. The richest country in South America.
Why would they want to be part of bankrupt Argentina ?
Wow this comments section is rammed with Brexiteers 😎.
Ha ha ha ha
40% of comments are from fake trolls.
The Uk own the island and people that live on the island speak English and class themselves as English
Because of UK invasion and colonialism
@Danielle Jones the island was uninhabited lol
@Danielle Jones it wasn’t even colonised, the island was uninhabited
“Uninhabited”
@Muneeb Khokhar ask about the Spanish (who became independent along with Argentina) Governed by Luis Vernet, envoy of the Argentine confederation.
It is as if Argentina sent troops to the British Isles, killed their rulers, expelled civilians, and then populated the islands with Argentines.
With no one to speak for the UK Falklands in the EU, pretty sure Argentina provides more economic benefit than the Falklands to the EU. Preserving trade with Argentina over restoring one with the Falklands seems more than possible.
Economic isolation of Falklands (like the UK) leading to higher chance of reunification with some other nation? Sounds like the game plan. Brexit benefit to Argentina. So many Brexit benefits!
The islanders would rather be without money than under Argentinian occupation.
@Alistair Nash Sounds like Brexit.
@Naughtius Maximus Yes lol it does.
Falkland belongs to UK is like Manhattan belongs to Russia
May be the best solution would be for all the colonialists who have stolen Native American land to leave, that would mean all non native peoples of Argentina all the way up through South America , North America, right up to Alaska.
….. not really 🙂 More like Hawaii for example. You dont get to demand something is yours because its closer to you than the nations that owns it .. it doesn’t work that way.
This came as a surprise? Did you think the Falklands could stay an EU overseas territory even after the UK left the EU !?
Well, yes… who’s going to change it? The UN wont because the people have a right to self determination.. same reason gib is untouchable. There is no credible military way they can be taken … therefore the islands remain British.
@Joe Cat The EU is not a territorial country, it has overseas territories only because some of its member states have them. Of course Brexit meant the Falklands would lose all their privileges with the EU. That’s not even a decision, merely a consequence of the EU treaties.
And no, the people on the Falklands do not have self determination! Their fate is decided by Westminster and they didn’t even get a vote in the Brexit referendum.
@Jan Six The UK control foreign affairs and defence but outside that they are self governing.
With a bit of luck the Argentinians will invade, so the UK can test out their new city class and show them they still, even when on their knees, will send a task force to protect its rocks overseas😂
@Mr. Bao check the news and what they’ve said lol. The yanks have piped in too.
Pero cerra el culo
@Mr. Bao ¿sos militar para saber eso?
@CHARLY IUZDI en serio crees que un A4AR y una docena de Super Etendards (todos aviones subsonicos), pueden competir contra Eurofighters y F 35b’s? Argentina tiene menos aviones en su inventario hoy que los que perdió en 1982. Y en cuánto a las balas, dado el presupuesto anual del ejército argentino y la cantidad de quejas por falta de munición, además de la utilización de inventario antiguo como la FN FAL o la M16, o el tanque TAM el cuál ni siquiera tiene armadura compuesta de ningún tipo y un cañón L7 de 105 que deja mucho que desear al lado del 120 (el cuál también está siendo retirado), y el TAP con blindaje ERA quedó en etapa de prototipo. Sí digamos que una guerra es una pésima idea.
@Mr. Bao Podria ser, pero ¿un argentino se va a rendir porque no tiene aviones? Ya paso en 1982, y a pesar que el ejercito de tierra llevo chicos menores torturados por los sargentos, pelearon lo mas que pudieron en esas condiciones, pensando que la gran mayoria de soldados quedaron en el continente mientras que enviaron a inexpertos a la guerra. La clave aqui es la hispanidad y su verdadera union. imagina si España e hispanoamerica rompiera relaciones con los piratas, seria otra cuestion. Los piratas siempre fueron enemigos de los hispanos.
Look, I’m no fan of Brexit, but Argentina’s been warned. They either respect the right to self-determination, or I won’t object if Britain has to turn Buenos Aires into an ashtray. BACK THE F*** OFF.
So we back at Margaret Thatcher plan to get them into brexit?
LOL, yall voted brexit…. ask the french Reunion, those lads are having a blast
who cares
Argentina should stop acting like a spoiled child. Thought they learned in 1982 they ain’t getting Falklands.
It’s only a consequence of Brexit. Of course all UK territories will be out of the EU. And as for British territories that mainly survives by being tax havens also looses their status as a overseas territory!
8 out of 10 of the worst tax havens in existence are British territories!
It’s over, they are being put on the EU black list over Tax havens and the problems that brings with it.
Argentina you robbed us during the World Cup, you are NOT going to rob us of our island 🖕
Cagate
Just give them back to there right full owner Argentina
Gracias amigo, thanks 🙂
Rightful owner lol..they never discovered the island nor populated it, the French and Spanish have more a claim than they do ffs, Britain was the only one who set up a long term colony after the others packed up and left. look up the the history of the island before talking or you just further the dumb paddy stereotype.
@Hub Chaffey I apologise for stereotyping the British as land stealing genocidal maniacs ,that didn’t steal anything that God didn’t think was rightfully there’s as the greatest race of people on earth
@Hub Chaffey ¿Te lo dijo el señor Bean? xD
Malvinas islands
Falkland Island belongs to Argentina and should be returned to them.
Gracias amigo
@CHARLY IUZDI de nada
And what will happen to the people there
@James Wilson Jajaja ¿preocupado por los usurpadores?
For Chile is Falkland Islands.
Ordinario
al jazeera hueles a mierda…¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ MALVINAS ARGENTINAS !!!!!
Nothing lasts forever..that includes the e.u
Bullying from the EU
Disgusting botox lips. What made that woman think she would be more attractive with MORROS DE BECERRO?
Brexit the gift that keeps giving.
Didn’t Boris say that this was the cakist treaty Because it was having your cake and eating it 😂
Problem is the cake was made with poison
Europe does not need these funny territories at all
What of this argument: serves you right for ‘voting’ to leave Argentina… No?