A territorial dispute going back 161 years is on the agenda as Japanese and Russian leaders meet this week.
Japan and Russia seek resolution over century-old island dispute
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A territorial dispute going back 161 years is on the agenda as Japanese and Russian leaders meet this week.
Which currency does they use?Rouble is cheaper now.
yuki sasano Russian ruble officially since Kuril Islands is governed by Russia
It’s sickening how Russians believe everything belongs to them.Do they have a thing for land in general?
Plamen Voulkov Then USA should give Texas back to Mexico along with California, England give independence to Scotland and Wales, Spain to bask region, Italy to Sicilians China to Tibet. Livid should go back to Poland, Gdansk to Germany. Should we have ww III to answer your question? Or you are ok ?
Open your eyes. Most countries today exist because they conquered someone else.
Kural Islands belongs to Russia
Are you a russian?
of course oil and gas
Hail Putin hail trump hail our people hail victory! Neither side Dan act because the USA would be involved with defending Japan but trump is in Russians side so there won’t be a war just an agreement
How do japan get those island in the first place?
Japan invade them .
Later, Soviet invade them.
Japan dont have legal right to ask Russia to return those islands.
Sweganator2013 Ainu arent Japanese
They are Japanese. They are part of the Jomon people which is where Yamato Japanese are from.
This is so stupid, Russia already have so much of land.
Loosing an island is a big deal for small country like japan
@आदि राजपूत The islands could have strategic importance though, even if they are small
Lizzy allen I think should divided into 3 parts, no one takes it alone
Since Russians are living there in peace, I think it’s fine the way it is. Why change it now.
probably because Japanese had lived there in peace as well and created a home and identity
@Bob Pearce then why russia did not usa territory?
@Arolema Prarath 😂russia sold alakas cause theyre so poor even the sakhalin 😂 and Britain will own USA 😂A poor country weak and ubstable lol
@Arolema Prarath it’s better China owns USA rather britian and russia poor coutries😂
@Mangorumble Sakhalin was actually mostly occupied by the Aino peoples before and even after Japanese occupation. Japanese natives really only started emigrating to Sakhalin when fascism in Japan was starting to take root.
white people invading asian countries
Back in the day, it was the other way around.
@Stingy Jew Close enough.
At least give money back to japan
ercan kilic but Japan has a debt problem
Not our problem.
Russia already have too much land and it wants more from a small island like Japan…
No, it just doesn’t want US military bases at important strategic location right next to it.
That is clearly part of Russia. Most Japanese are educated by the same Japanese education system which told them they are people of God. They were told to believe whatever imperialistic Japanese administration told them to believe. We have to respect international law. It is clearly part of Russia.
cody choi Tell me what International law allows these islands to be part of Russia?
Густав Янович Japan lost WW2, so Russia got the islands because they won.
cody choi Nope we already have a these islands since Japan-Russo war. And soviet invaded these islands “AFTER” WW2. So Can I ask you? Do you like
STALIN???
@Bigweevil United States defeated Japan. USSR defeated Germany. So that’s not how it was.
@Hitkid while yes, that’s true. I don’t think that statement is entirely accurate. The US was the one who did the most damage to Japan, and the USSR did the most damage to Germany. But that neglects the effects that the other allies did. D-Day helped the Soviets out by opening a second from, and China and india (British colony) fought the japanese
There’s no dispute,..it’s Russian territory period.
Those islands are belong to Russia,I am not Russian ,but I side the Russia should possess them .Japan is the loser of WWII.
10/10 English
sakhalin idiot kuril not queril idiot
fuckig janpan
THE ONLY THING THAT BELONG TO JPAN IS ONLY THE SUSHI BUT NOT EVEN THE TOYOTA BECAUSE THEY COPIED THE AMERICA
This is what Russia and China are land thieves if they grabbed one more Island or try to invade a country and take it over nato should go in and kick the s*** out of them
Al Tay But they didn’t “just invade” they attacked Japan because they were an axis power, and they grabbed the islands because they won
As Putin said in an interview: “Russia does not have territorial disputes at all , it’s only Japan who thinks he have a territorial dispute with the Russian Federation”.
Is border dispute a bilateral agreement? I think that bloke need to have his definition checked
Note, it wasnt Japan that recently annexed another countries border through military occupation
@大日本帝国万歳 how are the nukes going
I mean it’s Japanese lands that were stolen after ww2
@Arolema Prarath they could make nukes easily. As Russia haven’t return the islands, Japan will get revenge
Stalin originally wanted Hokkaido as a territory just like East Germany after WW2. Where would they be now.
@Thelonious M 2waaaaianabbaaąaaaaabaaaaaaaaaaaaauubjbun
@Asyraf Naim it doesn’t matter kurils are russian
@Jill’s Sandwiches Soviet invasion of Hokkaido would have failed. Where is their navy lol.
@Stevie Johnson AmeriKKKa would have probably helped. Also the soviets would have used whatever civilian boats & ships they have to cross after air superiority is established.
Matt Anderson – The people of Hokkaido would probably be speaking Russian and living normal lives. No country is perfect. America has problems; Russia has problems; and Japan has problems.
Sahalin Island is not a dispute. Even Japan admits that Sahalin is Russia. Why you did not show the small islands under the disput?
But it shouldn’t be Russian, after all the Russian’s weren’t there till the 1800s, whereas the Japanese, Ainu people were there for thousands of years. Russian’s love stealing land that shouldn’t belong to them, Vladivostok and the far east from China, Karelia, Petsamo and Salla from Finland, Bessarabia from Romania, Koenigsberg from Germany and many more!
Sweganator2013 And don’t forget the Oroks and Nivkhs. And apparently the first invaders was the Mongol Empire in 1264.
That is why I am Russian-American. We like to promote new Lands to better Life.
and Crimea from Uraine
@Andrew Georgescu Except the Ainu weren’t officially considered Japanese way back then.
a complete mess in colors of countries, calling Kuril and Sahalin
i’m no fan of Russia. However, if you START a WAR, you have to accept loss of territory if things don’t go your way.
Thelonious M japan planned to attack ussr from siberia after non agression pact too, what is your point?
@Sleeper Agent Smith That plan had been abandoned before WW2. Learn more about history not biased justified propaganda which is called textbook.
Japan asked Russia to be mediator.
@しゃっつーchattoux cancelled, yes, but only after harsher sanctions by the west and european axis’ failure to severely weaken th red army,
japan was still planning to attack ussr (kantokuen) with chemical n biological weapons after signing non agression pact, so Ussr was justified to attack crazy japan right?
So what is your point?
Not to be that guy but Russia declared war on japan. Details matter
what a stupid position to have
サンフランシスコ平和条約にロシアは調印しておらず、そもそも当事者がいない領土分割会議ができない点においてヤルタ会談のロシアへの領土分割案も無効仮にサンフランシスコ平和条約の遺志を引き継ぐとしても、北方四島は千島には含まれていないよって北方四島は完全に日本固有の領土であり、南樺太と千島も国際法上は日本のものではないのか
that was a part of china,but…..
yih y Yes because Earth belongs to China.
yih y yeah then China got in a massive civil war for like 30 years
Густав Янович сoбака
Russia’s already big enough. They should just give the Sakhalin and Kurils back to Japan
TheDaveMaybe Sakhalin is relatively populated with Russians of a variety of different ethnicities, from ethnic Russians to ethnic Koreans. Those people who were born and raised there should be forced to leave? The islands were won during WW2, when Japan was allied with Hitler and the Nazis. It’s the past & people shouldn’t have to leave the island they know as home…
TheDaveMaybe why Japan is so greedy???? How much do you need in all?
Japan invaded all the east Asia to rob lands and labours. Now you show your greed to Russia?
Very clearly. Japan needs more nukes
The most idiotic reasoning i’ve ever heard. Lmao. ‘Japan already has enough islands, they should stop insisting Takeshima belongs to them.’🤣🤣🤣💥💢
TheDaveMaybe Japan needs to fight it back
never give japan . it must be given to China.
It’s a matter of economic and military power. Russia occupied Crimea from Ukraine and the international community is keeping silence. Japan can negotiate, but cannot force a powerful county to give them territory.. Like China did with Hong Kong and Macau.
China and the UK had a treaty regarding Hong Kong which expired and changed hands according to the original treaty.
@Thelonious M not exactly true. That treaty was solely about the New Territories leased in 1898 for 99 years, therefore the handover in 1997. But since the original colony on HK island wouldn’t have been sustainable without the New Territories, they gave it back aswell.
@Photon not exactly true. Hong Kong and Kowloon were sustainable without the new territories. The problem was they were administratively indistinct and it would have been impractical to try separate with a new border where one previously didn’t exist since Kowloon boundaries had expanded and creeped into the new Territories. Point being, the British ceded Hong Kong in 1997 largely because of contract terms and not military intimidation from China.
The two Japanese men interviewed seem to have a slave-mindset. Sad that the Japanese are psychologically enslaved by the European invaders.
xtremeownage2 You do realize Russia is a multi-ethnic country with over 120 ethnicities, right? Meaning, Russians are multi-ethnic and not the super monotheistic view many brainwashed people have of them. He views himself as a Russian of Japanese heritage, the way someone in the USA views themselves as Americans of Japanese heritage.
JAPAN WOULD TURN THIS PLACE THESE ISLANDS INTO AN ECONOMIC MIRACLE .!!!UNLIKE THE MENTALLY POOR RUSSIAN WHOSE BRAINS ARE ONLY DESIGNED FOR CORRUPTION!!!!!!
Just give three of the islands to japan and the rest go to russia.
Only after English gentlemen give Falklands and St. George to Argentina. Deal?
Karafuto is Japanese.
Hokkaido is Russian
Japan is part of USA.
any submarine requires a big ship (submarine tender) which resupplies the submarine with food, water, fuel, and the tender needs to follow the submarine on the sea. a path from the sea of okhotsk and the pacific for both of the submarine and the tender is in fact limited because firstly a large amount of ice is drifting in the kuril islands and the tender cant navigate and secondly straits between adjacent islands of the kuril islands have different depth of water, and the submarine cant go underwater through the strait which has low depth. through only one strait between kunasir and iturup (пролив Екатерины) the submarine and the tender can sail from the sea of okhotsk to the pacific. if russia gave away kunasir and iturup to japan, the japanese submarines and the american submarines would sail from the pacific to the sea of okhotsk in an opposite manner. thats why russia never give over kunasir and iturup. many books mention about the reason, but almost few of the tv news programs report this essential point. the tv news programs always report just “the northern island issue.” not all japanese are interested in the territorial dispute.
at least the russians are not like Americans giving up territories won by their ancestors. Why give up Panama Canal
haha, it’s much more moderate than korea😂
It looks impossible to solve the dispute
“The Treaty of Portsmouth” betrayed Japan.
I think you are confusing the Sakhalin Island and the Kurils. The Kurils were not part of the Portsmouth Treaty.
That’s disgusting
BS. Those were completely different circumstances. Besides, the natives of Sakhalin were not ethnically Russian or Japanese at the times of annexation.
Land belongs to whoever won the most recent conflict over it. Rules of war. This land was faught over, russia won. End of story
Exactly. In the same way that Prussia became part of Poland and Alsace Lorraine became part of France.
We said that this island belongs to Russian Emperor Japan has come to this island since before World War 2, the island of the Soviet Union was restored. Japanese people, you remember that everything we did, this island cannot, or Tokyo will be like Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
Russia stole it from China
kuril are more Russian then Moscow, only uneducated person can claim i belongs o japan, as japan was loosing side in war so they lost part of territory, as did Germany.
That must be why the Russian flag now flies in Germany instead of the German flag?
Thelonious M Polish flag flies in a large part of former Prussia, your point?
@ZoomerStormer 😹😹
Make those islands independent!!
tho that would sound good it would probably upset the people living in the kuril islands as they would have to start all over again create a currency create an army create everything a nation creates in its begining years. Plus we know nations are wiped out as people cease territory
Japan should attack the island and then see if usa comes to its aid. Abe should just ignore the American warmongers’ commands.
I think its not the best idea to attack the most powerful nuclear arsenal country, taking into consideration Japanese experiance in WWII. It’s not a video game, kid.
calling america the warmonger while calling for an attack, very interesting
Can’t you ppl understand nuances?!
*The JSDF is the most powerful militant in a universe which has Wokou and Kamikaze cultures*
Whoever it belongs to.. I mean how much f***in land does Russia need lol.
Cry more
@Photon I don’t think you realize how close Alaska is to Russia.. Also there’s already a US base in Okinawa.. Then there’s Guam
@jhj uu Alaska is only 55 miles from Russia. It’s not that significant.. I mean there’s already a military base in Okinawa
it belongs to russia just stop
Ben Too, giving the land to JAPAN, is just giving it to America, as Japan is just a U.S. military BASE.
Japan lost the war…
NOT neeeed return
US occupation is out, negotiation is Start! Very simple
We do not lay US army in Holkaido.
It’s care for Russia.
Get back soon, ROBBER
@ザッハトルテthey won the war so they can do anything they want.
Its russia…to bad so sad
I don’t know much about this but Japan is fighting with Russia, China, and South Korea claiming it’s their territory says a lot about Japanese.
I would like Japanese to take Siberia
all of you only talking about what belongs to whom. and all i wanted to know is their culture and people. it’s really fascinating that two of a very different type of people living so close. must be a lot of half russian half japanese now i’m curious.
Not really – typical Russian ethnic cleansing as was done as in the baltics and attempted in Crimea – 99.9% of Japanese were evicted at gun point and replaced with some slavs.
@Happy Njm which country would that be that is a mix of two cultures?
@Happy Njm Russia is Russian and Japan is Japanese – there is no mix outside of tokyo strip clubs and brothels where 99% of Russian nationals in Japan are employed.
Solution: Let it be its own country!
Hokkaido too for Ainu people
While those would be culturally cool proposals, neither Russia or Japan would let that happen.
@Green Cappy I agree!
Not a good solution just ask Cyprus
Should at least give Japan the Islands thats literally touching it.
So Kunashir and Shikotan then?
Thats not how it works.
no
At least return them 50% of the lands
we should take putin’s deal. relinquish our claims to the rest of the islands in exchange for the return of two of the islands.
Dirtiest liar and robber in earthquake island.
Japan sucks
@jhj uu after putin dies well definitely reclaim those islands.
lets go to the ICJ and settle this through the contentious jurisdiction
Vladimir Putin was oh so determined to take the Crimea from Ukraine because he felt that historically it was Russian. He did the same thing taking a couple areas from Georgia because he felt they were Russian also and he set up puppet Russian states there. But I guess in this particular case he doesn’t have any real interest in giving something back to the original owner when it goes against his own interests.
Except Crimea saved its’ strong cultural ties with Russia and only was absent for 25 years due to Khruschev’s stupidity. Oh, yeah, and Russia lost no war to Ukraine 75 years ago
@Unical Network Crimea was from Russia for more like 50 years. still though, my point is very valid and according to his own standards he should be giving Karelia back to Finland.
Kuril Islands is in de facto control of Russia its not comparable with Crimea
Oh, wait
Georgia was the first to attack its autonomous region, killing russian peacekeepers. So, Russia responded as it should. Otherwise political and military power of Russia would’ve been seen as a one that isn’t capable of anything. And the only thing that saved Saakashvili from military court is the European diplomacy. Still, this guy ended up eating his tie.
Let’s be real, it’s Japan.
@BleedingSnow were doing great here in germany😗
@BleedingSnow and good russia serbia population will be chinese soon
@BleedingSnow most russian work in china as a maid😂
@zick zick You don’t seem to speak to reason, neither want to engage in a political discussion where we can both learn something from each other, you just want to insult Russia and ignore every point I make it seems.
Waste of time, by for now.
@BleedingSnow russia ussr is just a past now even usa is struggling theyre position as a world power
Do not give this to Japan, they will kill all the whales
Don’t need 4 Islands.
i was born in sakhalin.
Did you meet any Ainu?
Me too!
@Leonie Anne harsh, beautiful, nice people
Svetlana Gavrikova did you meet any Ainu, Oroks, or Nivkh?
@Vtron of course. They live among everyone else in the cities, and some in the north too
Japanese natives(ainu) came from Sakhalin Islands
Not correct. Ainu were originally living in Sakhalin and Kuril and Hokkaido.
Japan’s majority is Hokkaido Ainu. You should study more.
The reason why the Islands are in dispute is because either all of the Kuril islands supposedly belong to one country or the other, as per earlier japanese logic.
Russia lose to japan during ww2 give it to japan
Exactly, that’s what I remember, but the treaty screwed Japan over.
Russia lost to Japand during WW2. Lol. What kind of ridiculous history books do you have? Actually, Japan lost Russia 2 times. In Mongolia in 1940 and Manchuria and Kuril islands in 1945. Lol. You can google it.
can you imagine japan and russia corporate together japanese investnment can sky rocket the russian economy japanese tourist alone can bring in big income so they could give them half of the islands in return for hesvyo japanese investment
Hesvyo??
Sorry but now is the worst possible time for Japan to want those islands back, sure the Japan has an army once again but problem is that Russia’s new best friend China now has an absolutely huge navy and still wants revenge on Japan for what it did in WWII. Also the US army has been weakened by those wars on terror from the last 2 decades and the US are too focussed on Iran and Venezuela to help Japan thats why they let Japan rebuild its army in the first place… And now US economy is crippled by the coronavirus
belongs to Russia
Sakhalin Japan not sakhalin Russia…
Mainland Russia very far from sakhalin..
Its very clear majority people resemblance of Asian Japanese not white Russian.
And Russia let go siberia or push Independence…. the First people is the big basis evidence…
Guys sorry for my opinion
I love you all
First of all we should seek peace first before anything else..
Zydie Nun divides in 3 parts, Japan Russia and China own 1/3
Russia never leaves
give to japan to make it prosper
Imagine all the great onsen, spas, restaurants and resorts the Japanese could build on Kunashir
这是中国的领土。
是日本
@Ng Bryan 是中国的。现在是俄罗斯，未来是中国的。日本没份。。
Russia is so huge but still a poor country
Well america is huge too but drowned in debt?
@Rich Rich lol like that
It’s all because of Putin… his super right-wing, totalitarian principles keep Russians poor. Russia actually had the chance to become a powerful and peaceful modern republic after the Soviet era, but Putin made sure that the country would remain under his regime through misinformation and propaganda. Russians who have negative opinions about Putin know this and feel they should have more.
Think they shoud give japan 50% of the island territories in question. Japan is so small and russia so big.
Russia tried to give 2 islands back in 1956 but Japan is too stubborn and want all 4 islands, now they will have nothing
i really hope russia will lose someday all those teritouris that they stole
take the L japanese
Uhhh you know they lost the war right? it’s like germany could regain territories that lost to poland and russia
Mari Natroshvili, really, take a look at the lands the USA has stolen.
Japan lost the war! Shut up! You deserved losing the islands to Russia. Japan should be thankful they didn’t lose the Hokkaido island. I was hoping Russia invaded during WWII
We should help meet head to head to help Japan. That’s Japan’s land
@Isprikitik burkabush duh bias
@SylkaChan no all of it is russia just stop and take the L
People died for those lands, it is Russian.
@Isprikitik burkabush What? No. Sure, Japan was already invading parts of Asia, but they didn’t start ww2. It was Nazis and Soviets. Although Nazis did the first move.
@Isaac No!? Why You ask that?
👆🏼 Ahhem
Why are you pointing to you your name?
さっさと返せよロシア！
do you believe korea is a part of japanese
Because Russia didn’t had enough territory
This land definitely is JAPAN – Russia uccupied a lots territorie eg Finland, Ukraine< Germany< Poland, etc they can't maintain a proper way and create an environmental catastrophe.
❤️️💐❤️️💐❤️️❤️️❤️️💐❤️️💐❤️️❤️️💐
Golden kamuy brings me here
Just like Putin said: You lost the war and surrendered unconditionally.
Yes but those islands are just north of Japan
Russia lose to right?
Да ни кто вам Курилы не отдаст ! Я родилась на Сахалине и живу здесь. Родители мои похоронены здесь. Дети и внуки живут здесь.
In Ainu ‘kur ‘ {Kuru Guru } means person ,actually the Kuriles Ainu called themselves Ru-ru-tom ( appear /by the sea people )un kur . And Sakhalin Ainu called the Kurile Ainu ( Ko-ushi ) ko = distant ush = bay distant bay And the word ‘Ainu ‘means human or bowman. the ( kur ) part of the word ‘ Kur-il ‘ is possible but -il does not exist in Ainu language ,it also could be a ‘ r ‘ replacing ‘ L ‘ there is no ‘ ir ‘ ., ‘ i-ri = relations or of the same family in the Ainu language , so it could be misheard kur + i-ri, try saying Kur+ iri fast ! people related they were very few so they were all related people !? because of the ..r + i-ri , in Ainu and Japanese the R and L are indistinguishable pronounced ‘ kurir ‘not kur – i-ri like soft ‘curl ‘
It be better if Japan run this island , Moskow and Putin only want to extract oil and gas from this island.
سخلائن جزیرہ روس اور جاپان کے درمیان متنازعہ ہے۔۔۔۔
樺太、千島列島を昔の日本人がしっかり住んでいたら、日本はもっと大きい‼️☺️
北海道不是日本领土，北海道是阿伊努人的土地。阿伊努人应该在北海道建立一个属于自己民族的国家。.
冲绳不是日本领土，冲绳是琉球人的土地。琉球人应该在冲绳重新建立琉球国。
冲绳不是日本领土，冲绳是琉球人的土地。琉球人应该在冲绳重新建立琉球国。。
You can NOT even pronounce correctly the name of those islands. How you pronounce “Kuril Islands” ?
Kuril is Russians. Hands of Japan who is dog of US. No single island will give you japan. I am from Mongolia.
Why not create a second Svalbard treaty between Russia and Japan, to allow both countries to conduct economical activity on the islands and their waters and to demilitarize them?
Better give it back to original native people. That land is neither for Russia n Japan.
Golden kamuy
Russia can give just nulear rocket to japan,last gift…
Russia is bigger itself more than Pluto.. give that island as a donation
USSR doesn’t exist anymore, neither does Japan state of WWII times.
i love japani
The easiest way to stop disputes is to open online voting among Kuril habitants.
Each one enters with his tax code and passport data and votes.
In case that Kurils returned to Japan, each one automatically gets japan citizenship and 50 000 USD award 🙂
Japanese, don’t forget my award after winning back phatherlands 🙂
紛争を食い止める最も簡単な方法は、クリルの住民の間でオンライン投票を開くことです。
一人一人が彼の税コードとパスポートデータと投票で入力します。
千島列島が日本に帰国した場合、それぞれが自動的に日本国籍と50000米ドルの賞を獲得します:)
日本人、祖国を取り戻した後、私の賞を忘れないでください:)
北海道不是日本领土，北海道是阿伊努人的土地。阿伊努人应该在北海道建立自己民族的国家。
北海道不是日本领土，北海道是阿伊努人的土地。阿伊努人应该在北海道建立一个属于自己民族的国家。
冲绳和北海道都不是日本领土。冲绳属于琉球人，北海道属于阿伊努人。我希望未来日本的土地越来越小。
Why not let the people decide? The Falklands are British and conflicts apart the people voted to stay under britain rule…