Ever wondered just how much money you’d actually need to in order to be Financially Independent, to quit your job, and retire early? Here’s the answer. Enjoy! Add me on Instagram/Snapchat: GPStephan
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First, lets define “financially independent,” because this term means different things to different people. To me, it’s having enough money to support your current lifestyle without you ever needing to earn another dollar. It’s knowing that you’ll have a certain amount of money at your disposal every single month that covers your daily expenses without ever running out.
For each of us, that number is different. For someone in rural Kentucky, maybe it takes $35,000 per year to cover all of your expenses…food, housing, entertainment, health insurance, just everything you’d ordinarily spend in a given year. For someone in New York City, maybe that number is closer to $90,000 per year…or maybe for a family of 5 in Southern California, it’s $125,000 per year. But what’s unique is that even though each of us will have a different level to what we’d consider financially independent, the math behind it stays exactly the same.
For most situations, how much you need invested in order to retire is as simple as this: 25x your annual expenses. This means if you want to spend $50,000 per year, you’ll need 25 times that…or $1,250,000. You want to spend $80,000 a year? You’ll need 25x that, or $2,000,000 invested. Spend $100,000 per year = invest $2,500,000.
In order to accurately do this, it requires you to really sit down and think about the lifestyle you want, how much it’s going to cost, and what you currently spend. By first going over your current expenses…and literally counting every cent that goes in and out of your account, you’ll get a great baseline as to how much you regularly spend on a monthly basis. From there, determine if there’s anything else you’d want and how much that will cost. Once you add everything up…multiply that number over 12 months…then multiply that by 25, and that’s how much you’ll realistically need to have saved.
So how does this work exactly when it comes to financial independence? Well, that’s what’s known as the “Safe Withdrawal Rule” or “The Trinity Study.” This study suggests that you can withdrawal 4% of your total investment annually – which is usually studied as an investment portfolio consisting of 80% equities and 20% bonds, with a fairly high success rate of never running out of money. This means that for every $100 you invest, you can safely spend $4 of that each and every year for basically the rest of your life.
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This study takes into account that you’re invested in 75%-80% in equities, like stocks of a corporation, and 20-25% of bonds, which represent a more stable, secure return. On average, a portfolio like this should return an average of about 7% annually adjusted for inflation over a 30+ year period. This means that your investment MAKES YOU 7% after inflation…you then spend 4%…leaving you with an extra 3% left over as a buffer for safety. And this is the basics of how this study is calculated. This takes about 100 years of historic data and market returns into account to determine a number that should be safe in the majority of market situations.
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what don,t just say you have to spend only 25% of your money
I am aiming for 22 Million.
Baller!
Graham, if you want likes please add bitconnect memes. Sincerely, your fans haha!
DEAL!
Great job. Crystal clear and backed up with facts.
(Unless we have a really BIG crash which will put a crimp in interest rates for more than a few years?)
Thanks so much!! This factors in major market crashes as well.
Great video, sums up really good how much one needs to earn in a lifetime, thanks Graham! Even if you take out a few percent more annually, it will last a long time.
Graham,
Recent subscriber, and big fan here… Thanks for all your insights. Wanted to see if you would be open to walking your subscribers through a more in-depth examination of commercial real estate. Might be a cool opportunity to bring in another agent to discuss. Would be really interesting. Unless you have already done this… Hope it fits your channel’s direction. Keep the good content coming.
Thanks,
Justin
So I need about $3 million and I aim for retiring at 50, so I have 17 years to make it happen. Question: how much tax do you have to pay when you withdraw out the 3%? Let’s say in this case 3% = $100K
Rough numbers but you can look up to get exact 0% if your income is under 40k, 15% if it’s under 400k and 20% after that. Keep in mind only your profit from the sale is taxed and not the principle investment
i want to spend 2m on strippers and drugs. Lol jk, theres a property i want to live in in miami beach and its 45k a month rent. So that would be about half of my income, and the rest i want to invest and also spend it all on charity so people can get clean drinking water. I really want to establish water pumps in villages so they get lifetime clean water. Also charity for veterans cuz im a huge military supporter
You can check out the property here:
1401 N Venetian Way Miami Beach
I love the video it’s very informative but i have to ask, who is that “what am i gonna do” guy? I keep seeing those clips in your videos and curious enough to know where it came from so i can have a good time laughing at its ridiculousness
It’s Carlos Matos at the Bitconnect annual ceremony! Watch the whole thing on YouTube!
This video is amazing but I think i’m missing something here. When calculating living expenses you only take into consideration money spent, but doesn’t your 4% that you take out every year have to cover much more than that considering the taxes you will have to pay on that income? Taxes on capital gain, etc. Is there something I am missing here? I really want you to tell me that taxes become obsolete somehow when someone becomes a badass real-estate investor like yourself.
200k otw
Dude, I love The Gambler! I’m totally Mark Walhberg in that movie haha
Teach me
Hey graham, can you review roofstock for us?
I’ll look into it!
Much appreciated, i look forward to it!
9 000 000 000 Kr = 72 000 000 000 $
Independently… Financially… Independently…
Bahaha…the bitconnect clip
Ahhhhh!!! Another bitconnect clip!!! I’m fuckin’ login’ this shit!!!! Am I at a goddamn McDonald’s!!!????
WHAT AM I GONNA DO??
That’s a scam!!
Lucky me I live in Kentucky…lol 🙂❤
$70000 is what I came up with. I am 3 years away but I will stay working because I like my job. That way I can sleep more comfortably at night.
Hopefully my pension that is guaranteed by the state constitution will actually be there when I go to retire. Looking at about $60k-$80K/yr. Rental properties income gravy on top! Holla!!! 🤑🤑🤑
Your dog is so cute… what is that guys name – “financially independently” I have to watch that video lol
Carlos Matos Bitconnect Annual Ceremony!
I don’t believe in standard “retirement”…. I see so many people around me start wasting away when they retire, even if they have a plan of action for those “golden years”. I believe having a routine of some sort is good for you, so I’ll continue to work, just not a typical 40-hr week or anything like that (I guess they call that semi-retirement? haha). Of course it helps if you don’t classify the work you do as “work” or “a job” but instead something you like, or at least relatively enjoy. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely intend on traveling, building cars, and generally doing whatever the hell I want, but I won’t take that routine, however small, out of the equation.
Keep in mind that’s just my opinion, and my current mindset. Reaching FI is a bit different for everyone, but definitely crunch those numbers and plan, plan, PLAN ahead. Thanks again Graham for keeping it real.
Thanks for the info. I can now be FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENTLY FINANCIALLY.
Gotta do math, dislike, unsubbed. Going over to Tai Lopez so I can live like Nicolas Cage. 😅
Or OR – hustle yo ass off and 10X that number.
I actually went to Nicolas Cages’ island last week!!
How was it?
Graham Stephan the Exuma islands of the Bahamas are the most beautiful place I’ve ever visited, the water is unbelievable! The trip to his private island was part of an island hopping excursion we took so we were only there for like 30 minutes, but I’m pretty sure they said it was for sale if you are in the market 😉
Yo Graham I thought you were balling. What are you doing looking for a basement apartment in Hamilton? https://www.kijiji.ca/v-bachelor-studio-apartments-condos/hamilton/looking-for-bachelor-apartment-600-750/1368764524?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
I’m just joking you are a beautiful man. (no homo) That would be you if you went on a meth bender.
You tubers don’t realize that the first two minutes of a video where they’re joking around is a long time when you clicked on the video bc of the topic
For my to have 6,000 a month I would need 2,160,000 it’s a bit more than I expected. For my to cover my Bills right now in life to focus on investing more in growing my future I would just need 360,000 (my bills are 600 month right now) which is much lower than I expected. Those are both multiplied by 30.
Love the clip for the show the gambler….so true….
Graham awesome….live in cheap area 2 hours from metro area housing cheaper. Ride an e bike to grocery store, free exercise. House hack free housing. Doesn’t take much.
Just plan on working the rest of your life.
awesome video!……hope that will wake many people up from their bad money habit slumber (like crazy Nicolas Cage) and start getting serious with their savings and investments…
My plan since I’m Hispanic and a musician is to get my real estate license and at every party I go to I present myself and tell them what I do that way people know what I do and get clients 😂. That’s a good idea right ?
There we go! Try it out!
I love the four percent rule, but I have never heard it explained in such an easy to understand way. Excellent video Graham
Thanks so much Andy!
YES!!! the Carlos memes are back hahaha.
Hey Graham can you do a video or just answer me on your top 5 books to read. Thanks bro
https://youtu.be/DOoCAyu2wrc Boom!
Graham Stephan tha boi
Hey Graham, I love your videos! you are amazing! I have a question! I am 18 and I’m starting college. I have 0 debt and I want to buy properties and do what you do. Can you give me any tips as a broke college student. I live in Florida, so everything is expensive. I want to accelerate my net worth. Should I get a job? how much should I save? I won’t have the two years banks want to give me a loan. what do I do? I admire you man! thank you!
Browse reddit.com/r/FinancialIndependence – best place for you to be and read!!
Hey Graham can you make a video about mobile homes whether it’s a good idea or not pros and cons
I don’t know enough about them unfortunately !
How much money would it take me to be financially free, including frequently buying sharks with laser beams on their heads?
Ouch that’s gonna set ya back a pretty penny…i’d say…one MILLION dollars…
Hi Graham, what is your view of investing in apartment?
Apartments? Just the same as anything else. As long as the numbers make sense, go for it.
This stuff never works. U can save all u want if your not rich it will be very hard to do something like this. Ez said thin done smh
Not really man. People do this all the time and it consistently works.
U maybe right i hav to look into it a lil more im 34 seem like i cant save for anything.
Instead of listening to music on my motorcycle I listen to your videos
Glad they’re helpful! 🙌🏼
😎 another quality video.
Graham, I thank you so much for all of the great advice is your past videos about real estate, and i am sure to use it when i start my real estate career. Which will not happen soon as for i am only 13 right now, but i obsess over preparing myself for a great life in the future and it give me a sense of courage now and will in the future. So i sincerely thank you for giving me so many tips in real estate and i hope to learn even more from you. Thank you
Graham I’m in ny Long Island the taxes are high. Would it make better sense to buy investment property in neighboring states I.e Pennsylvania with lower taxes and cheaper houses? Thanks love the videos
Property taxes or actual taxes? If so check with your CPA, you may need to file your taxes where you live.
Graham Stephan hey Graham thanks for responding property taxes
Why not just Bitconneeeeeeeeect??
Or you can do that 😉
Late again 😂
The Bitconnect memes are perfect 👌
Putting more in the videos from now on!
Is the dog yours?
I’m not a financial guru but I think there may be a flaw in your formula. Not the 4% draw down part but the lifestyle part. $50,000 per year today is not the same as $50,000 when you retire, so you need to count for inflation of say 3% annually to have a more realistic number for day one of your retirement. That may push your $50,000 number quite a bit higher depending on your age. I for example am about 15 years from retiring, so that $50K number is actually $62,200 x 25 = 1.55M vs 1.25M. Let me know if I am wrong in this assumption.
Inflation is already calculated in the return and spend!
Upstate / WNY or NC for me … 1.02m. Seems legit.
Hello Mr. Graham how are you? Thank you for this mathematical breakdown. I did the math and the numbers added up to more than I had expected. Thank you again and keep up the great content.
Guys just invest in bitconnect!
Sounds like dan loks book F u money
Yeah the principle of FU money has been around for quite some time!
“Do something that you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.” ~ Jim Cook
Great video man! Your channel is doing awesome!
Thanks Yak!
I actually use an online portfolio manager to calculate risk/profit in equities. I get LOTS of alpha. Should I drop the link?
You broke it down in a very simple and easy to understand way. Thanks Graham
80k a year in new york gets you a used honda accord v6 and a 2 bedroom basement for rent
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i know right
How did you arrived at the number 25 what is you logic
That’s just mathematically what’s needed to pull back 4%.
Graham Stephan thanks for the reply….I love your videos…great work thanks
Anybody have tai’s real estate course?
I watched it. It was decent, most for wholesaling and bird dogging.
Graham how did you come to a conclusion on your twenty five times figure? Any article or the like?
The trinity study!
I liked what you had to say about the ‘numbers ‘ . Now I have a goal. Its achieve-able! I want to retire well. ….and reasonably young. Im sure there are a lot of folk that want the same. Heres to accepting the numbers challenge!
I’m so grateful I found the FIRE community. I started my journey towards financial independence 3 years ago and I’m already 70% on the way! I blog about everything I do, from income to savings rate and which investments I make. Full transparency, real numbers. Come see what I do. https://financiallyfree.eu
Can an Indian working in USA get multiple houses and rent it out what are the criterias
Dear Graham.
I have watched your vidoes for a long time and i have understood everything you explain. I have a question This time.
The money that is needed when you multiply your expenses With 25 in stocks or 17 in Real estate. Is This Cash money in hand or is This borrowed money from the bank?
What would the eqaution look like If it is borrowed money from the bank with a 30 year fixed low rate with a High credit score.
Thanks in advance Semir
This is money you have in hand. Not borrowed money.
I got 6 million invested. that’s 20k a month, not too shabby. I think its doable too! Love this video Graham, keep em coming!
I like your content but your impersonations sound terrible and annoying. Eg. 0:22
my number is 400k roughly, this is at my current expense level, i think i if i allowed some lifestyle inflation it would be like 600-800k
Funny thing. I’m watching this right now at 2:52am
Very informative. Thanks for uploading
The Stock Market can Crash and all of you real estate investors / speculators are going to CAUSE this. Damn you all.
Im so behind on your vids need to catch up 😂
Bruh seriously!! 😛
Ok, I’ve been watching for about a month now. This guy you keep referencing (the guy that’s financially independently financially) cracks me up. Who is he and do you have a link to the original video you pull these snips from?
It’s Carlos Matos from Bitconnnect!
dang so i can just dropship for one year and retire at 20 yrs old if i go ham
🤗
I’ve been re-evaluating my retirement recently and came up with a spreadsheet showing I need about 750k. Then I watched this, did the math and came up with 750k again! Could have saved me some time if I’d seen it sooner lol.
I see a lot of stuff about “how much you need to retire.”
I don’t care.
I don’t care how much I “need.” The number is infinite. I dont wan’t “living expenses” for the rest of my life. I don’t want a “travel budget” in my sunset years. I want “fuck you, I do whatever I want” money until I die. THAT is the goal.
Retiring at 35 shouldn’t be the goal. The goal should be finding a job you don’t want to retire from that gives you time and freedom (in English: money) forever.
Everyone is different, I think getting to the point where you don’t NEED to work is ideal – and that requires saving and investing.
@Graham Stephan already working on it 💪 I’m young. 8 digit retirement is well within reach realistically, but 9 would be better
Buffer? Dude this ain’t League of Legends.
It isn’t?
@Graham Stephan lol. I like you. But do you really think credit vs. Cash wins? I mean I always tip.
I don’t understand why you have to reduce the safe withdrawal percentage to 3% if you plan to retire early. As long as you’ve saved up 25x annual expenses, couldn’t you withdraw 4%, regardless of how long it took you to save up that amount?
You risk running out of money in retirement at 4%
Graham Stephan wasn’t the whole point of the Trinity Study to prove that 4% could be safely withdrawn each year for infinity without ever impacting the principal? That’s how I understand it.
600k to cover my actual lifestyle, it’s lower than I expected 🤭
Not bad!
2 million is all it takes
Real Estate over stocks yes in returns. But what about the work you have to do between the two? Stocks are more passive. It’s better to do a little of both.
I was just re-watching this video for the information so I could see where I stand on being financially independent. The number was actually much lower than my expectations which is because I was raised to have the mind-set that you always need to work and retirement is an illusion. At any rate, the number was well under $1 million even after adding an additional 10% to my annual expenses for an ‘unknown’ buffer. I started thinking to myself that retirement may really be possible, but then I started thinking of my current lifestyle vs my future lifestyle. Currently I’m single with no kids, semi-healthy, and living a somewhat frugal life so my annual expenses are near the bottom of what I can possibly make them. However, as time goes on my cost of living will certainly go up due to inflation. Bills will certainly increase, health will decline which means health care costs go up, and that’s not even factoring the added costs of a family. It all makes my head spin, and makes me wonder if this guide has factored all of that into it.
What’s your thoughts Graham?
Graham great job on the videos! I was wondering if you have any information or strategies you take for health insurance since you are self employed. What is your best research so far?
Love it, Thank you!
Liked! Love your videos Graham! Super informative and science based! I’ve been getting financially advised to get life insurance to eventually insure a mortgage or might be useful if I get children. What do you think about it? And there are so many options permanent vs term, buyback vs not, and buyback with interest. Thanks a bunch!
Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but can someone please explain the math at 7:21 to me? Why x17?
I’m about to finish paying off my townhome and I’m looking into getting another property within the next year or two, so I’m curious
25 times based on what? A 30yo will need a higher multiple than a 60yo, correct? What is the multiple based on age?
2500000! Definitely more than I expected.
Would this plan still work if I have saved up 25x of my expenses, but have 50-60 years of retirement? Wouldn’t I run out of money? Would these numbers adjust for inflation or increased cost of living? I expect that I would have to spend more as I get older – like medical costs and long-term care. This sounds like people could potentially run out of money after 25 years.
Stunning presentation Stephan! It helps us a lot!
$948,600
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Great vid, I come to the conclusion I’ll be flipping burgers at 85 years of age 😂
Rounding up 1000$ a month on expenses ×12=12,000× 25=300,000
50,000 more than i thought
I need to find cheaper car insurance….
Must lower!!
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I need 260k dollars invested cuz’ i live in india