Al Jazeera’s @AlexGatopoulos takes a look at rising tensions and potential military action over the fate of unclaimed resources in the Eastern Mediterranean.
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This time, ww3 is not coming from Austria
I’m bored. Let there be a WAR.
UN is just a rubbish establishment that USA uses it to project their evil
Hope this further escalates into an all-out war so Turkey can freaking collect all of them islands that’s so closed to them.
Are not the islands close to turkey.Its greece close to turkey and there are heavy guns around.If they attempt to take a small island they might succeed, but I don’t see any gain from it.I would worrying about starting a war that would send missiles and aircraft deep into the turkish mainland, that would be really out of control, cause greece isn’t Syria and it’s not Lybia neither Iraq, Greece has champion pilots and very well examined plans of action that would cause great headache since Turkey has currently opened many fronts of conflict, and one mainly is the invasion of Syria with the excuse that some Syrian citizens of Kurdish culture are terrorists, Syria is a recognised independent state and all the countries that entered with arms did it only to help against ISIS, obviously that was the pretext to support their own interests, but they did not violate international law, unlike turkey.I can’t recognise any right with a state that has such a behaviour, cause in this logic greece should invade albanian because there are UCK irregulars that formed the UCC (the so called for them liberation of Chameria, a greek province of Epirus that had a number of albanians that fled to escape retaliation from the greeks for their cooperation with the Nazis), or invade Skopje for their outrage demand claim the Macedonian name and heritage(something our ally and friend supported openly and demanded not to accept anything but the name they have and that Turkey will always refer to them as Macedonia!!!the ally Turkey).So, once their ships back to ports we might discuss, otherwise let them search for our rockers before reach turkish ground!
Sto_Karfi! dude come
on everyone attacked libya and syria and now you are telling me turkey invaded a independent state bullshit stop with this propaganda man . Turkish military is also really
good so you guys cant be able to go turkish mainland thats for sure and turkey doesnt want to get any island from you . Dont listen the dump people in turkey who says this we are not living in medievel age that times are over . Turkey wants a justice in mediterrenean and aegean sea ,we have the biggest coast line in mediterrenean sea and you guys are trying to push turkey out of seas .
Sto_Karfi! btw congrats on 10 billion euro payment for france to buy military equipments , this is what europe and usa wants from us to be conflict each other and buy their weopons at the end of the day we both will suffer from all this nationalist attempts . Past is past we should get over it and work together !
Sto_Karfi! Dont forget turkey has 15 million kurdish people and if there were problem turkey wouldnt be in top 5 touristic place for last 10 years . We took around 500 k kurdish people who ran away from syria and 3,5 m arab refugee aswell. And we got attacked from syria (essed regime, ypg, isis ) do you know how many suice attacks those terrorists did in turkey ? We killed and captured many isis terrorists. Be honest and please search more before you even say something that is nothing to do with you . Did i say anyrhing about your internal problems ? or problems with u and other countries? no . Because i am not ruling you . But you are acting like you are the boss of turkey.
TT Tony S. But Greece has the longest cost and not you
Turks st!nk so much that even blind people hate them..
Islam dosent belive in democracy only in praying 500 times day to Ali baba..
France has no rights to drill. Turkey has the biggest coast region, so Turkey has the right to the oil.
If Greece, Israel and Egypt gets the oiln they are easy puppets for usa. Usa will control their oil. But if Turkey gets the oil, usa can not control Turkey. Usa can’t stop Turkey from buying Russian s400 or put sanctions on Turkey. Usa pulled out of Syria and let Turkey take control in Syria. I hope Turkey do good things with the oil they rightfully own
it is absolutely wrong. Islands have exclusive economic zones too bro
Such a hypocrisy against Turkey. When it comes to Cyprus, greek state regarded as UN recognized but the deal with Libya’s UN recognized state and Turkey is illegal! France, Greece and Arabic states doing their best to support a clown called Hafter against UN recognized state. Thats what you are! The funniest thing is that they are with Russia backing Hafter, imagine Russia establishes a military base in Libya with the permission of Hafter, France will be crying to USA so loud.
There is no active backing for Haftar but for obvious reasons Greeks would prefer that he prevail in Libya. The obvious reason, of-course, is that your namesake has found a willing puppet in Saraj to the extent that the ‘internationally recognised Libyan government’ was prepared to come to that laughable EEZ agreement with Turkey which Turkey – with a straight face – insists is ‘in accordance with international law’. Never mind that it impinges on the rights and sovereignty of a third country (Greece).
Faraj was to rule for 2 years and as such he was internationally recognised.Authority was never given to him to decide to remain sole monarch.
Information given by narrator is so speculative, no greek authority said turkish ships would be sunk
Turkey is on good way……
This guy takes the issue from a very biased point. Even mfa of greeks could not take the issue like him. He says that tr-libya agrrement is illegal. Are a judge of a court of Hague?? How such a qualified Chanel Al Jazeera hire such a clumsy person?
😂😂😂 the guy said the truth because he knows the international law not erdogans fake law
turkey turkey turkey go Allah ho akbor
If I’m not wrong, this guy has a greek name? And he is explaining the conflict. 😆
Yeah, but working on a Qatari broadcaster, which is Turkey’s pocket book. I guess that even the Qataris are seeing flaws in their love relation with Turkey and perharps they feel it’s time to abandon ship.
@Paul Niotis Quatar has money and playing all sides.
Yes what a farce. Distinctively pointing out and pausing arguments for Greece. And a fat lie at the end. The southern part NEVER wanted a deal together he’s presenting that like it was the other way around.
They should have hide his last name, these mistakes can happen 😂
Turkey is an international bully nation..They have illusions that they can revive the Ottoman empire…But still they can handle even the Kurds who dont have air support nor high tech weapons…Hellas has one of the most skillful air force. 😎
let it go easily bro. We are ready for war if they so come infront of us. If not leave infront of us or we eat u
Alex Gatapoulos, you are such a one sided big liar .
Al Jazerea has only one Greek surnamed writer/reporter for this news ?? Aljazeere, you are garbage.
Wow, complete nonesense. Turkey has the longest shore in mediterrenean an yet you teling Turkey can have the least.
@mp question beat I don not get in to a discussion with anybody who does not distinguish the facts and fictions. Over 50 percent of your claims are fiction.
@TheBagarali
Lets see my facts and yours.
Mine first.
1) 15.147 Hellenic shore – 7.200 Turkey fiction?
Hellas is No 9 in the world and turkey is No 17 shore lines Fiction?
2) turkish lyra is allready 1 to 8 with euro Fiction?
3)international low is very specific about
the islands and what is their influence in the area. Fiction?
4) turkey maby talk all time about international low
but they have not put a signature to confirm it. Fiction?
5) turkey maby talk all time about international law of the sea
but they have not put a signature to confirm it. Fiction
6) Cyprus is Independent coundry with capital lefkosia
and goverment the Lefkosia state. Fiction?
7) UN is very clear witch is the goverment of Cyprus. Fiction?
8) Turks has an illegal army that has invate illegaly in the islan. Fiction?
9) Even the turks that live in Cyprus do not wan turkish goverment
becouse they have miletary low. Fiction?
10) Real goverment of Cyprus is in United Europe
so they can travel in all Europe just with ID. Fiction?
11) Turk govermend change the population evry year to dont let the
people to reunite with the rest of the Cyprus. Fiction?
12) Turks that live in Cyprus wan to reunite with the rest of Cyprus
and Erdi do not let them couse of the contact to the sea and the illegal
control of the teritory. Fiction?
13) Cyprus over com the Economic crisis in just 2 years. fiction?
14) Cyprus is one of the highest States in UE in the finansial incoming. Fiction?
15) Turkey does not have borders in water with Lybhia. Fiction?
16) France actualy is in United Europe so it has every right
to defend Europes borders if that has to do with imigration or military. Fiction?
17) article 42 defence eu. Fiction?
18) becouse you are not in U.E. you do not know a lot
about how Europe works. Fiction?
19)you have your part of the cake in black sea
and no one complain you about it. Fiction?
20) you use military and invate so many coundries and no one wan you. Fiction?
21) That you refused NATO to use the bases in turkey to fight ISIS. Fiction?
22) And as fast as Kurds clean up the area from ISIS and Tzihadiest you build
a wall and start kill Kurds that help NATO to defeat ISIS. Fiction?
23) You are the only coundry in the region that deliberatly create war contitions
and invate other coundries in times of need. Fiction?
24) Cyprus Civil war = turkey invate. fiction?
25) Iraq sivil situation war = turkey invate. Fiction?
26) Syria sivil war = turkey invate. Fiction?
27) Lybhia sivil war = turkey invate. Fiction?
28) When you went in a bad situation with the coup every one
respect you and help you and no one invate you. Fiction?
29) Thread United Europe with imigration and waponise humans from wars that you
are in and you alone create this imigrands. Fiction?
30) every one waking up and realise what a pis of shity behaivor
coundry you are. Fiction?
31) You thread with war europe. Fiction?
32) before 3 days you literaly destroy a christian church of Saint George. Fiction?
33) That you desecration of temples like hagia Sofia and moni tis horas and
you turn them in to mosques. Fiction?
34) That you be more comfortable with Qatar , pakistan , Iran , hezbollah ,
ISIS , hamas and other terorrists groups. Fiction?
35) That you have a theocratic goverment that is controled by extreme right
Grey wolves. Fiction?
36) All the other mediterranean coundries are peacfull even Israel
with Arabs made a peace treaty and you do not like it. Fiction?
37) You are the only power in the history of NATO that use
ISIS and Tzihadists and terrorists under NATOs Umbrella. Fiction?
38) Kasteloriso is not far from Hellas is not close to Hellas IS HELLAS. Fiction?
39) Use tools to mesure things like shore lines. Fiction?
Now lets check yours.
1) it is not yours and it will never be. I would strongly suggest you get this sick idea out of your mind.
That place is belong to people of Turkey.
2) Animal is what we call your government’s actions.
3) I don’t read your column, cuz I don’t care what u think
4) You just need to look at the map, He is meaning East Mediterrenean,
Where Greece has only Mias Island and which is only 10 km2 and have
only 2km shore to East Med.
(This one by the way i got to admeet it was a nice
try to build an argument totaly false but a good try.)
5) moron.
6) Based on tbe nonse you have ben keep producing, i came to a conclusion
that your are an either Greek propaganda trol or you don`t
have an enough IQ to distinguish the difference between facts and fiction.
7) we lost some 100 years ego when stupid ottoman sultan’s lost it all
and we had only 10 mil. population. However,
time is in our side. If you thing your friends are going to
frighten us you are dreaming. You have nothing in eastern Mediterranean Sea,
that is the end of it.
8) Yeah right. Before trying to get into any kind of seriouns politicial argument,
learn to write properly in English so that people would understand what you are
trying to say, you hillbilly.
9) I don not get in to a discussion with anybody who does not distinguish the
facts and fictions. Over 50 percent of your claims are fiction.
Com to a conclusion now if youre mind can make the synapse plz.
@TheBagarali Man agen thnx a lot becouse as long you keep typing you show what exacly you are what you do and how you argue and how you talk and thing is a compliment for me seriusly im 🙏. I realy hope Jesus Christe to show mercy to you and light you to stop folow your leaders in the shithall that they have create and they drug you in. Im preety shure that you are realy miss lead from the turkish propaganda and your brains are confused and when you will wake up from the delutions that the extremests that are in the goverment have feed you it will be to late. Look out your economy your education how to feed your people how to contribute to the rest of the worls and let at side the wars becouse i feel you are a bit isolate with your actions and is your fault and yours only. And worst hasnt came yet prepear your souls becouse the world will not tolerait you for any longer. No one wan a naighbor with your behaivor.
@mp question beat you still dont get it. There is nothing to discuss. You and your dear friend Maccoroni have nothing in Eastern Mediterranean.
mp question beat Αδερφέ τι τον έκανες ; respect ….έκανα copy paste την απάντηση να το χω
Dear A Jazeera as a media outlet I hope u understand its your duty to work for peace, as a Greek I want Peace with my Turkish neighbors please promote this thanks
@polygamous1 Sozou, erdogan care about peace ? Dont make me laugh. Look what happen in syria.
Point is many incidents have led to this state between Greco-turkish relations. War provocations over a rock back in ’96, the invasion of cyprus, now Turkish dont accept international law but Greeks do… Nothing can happen unless both players play the same game.
@Acid Beatz Point taken, number 1 It was Fascist N Sampson n his gang of Fascist who over thrown Makarios, he took power n he then started killing Turkish civilians n Greek leftist, he went into a Turkish village n murdered EVERYONE all 300 people except 1 who was returning from work so when he saw what was happening he quietly run away Turkey warn get the legit government back or I’ll invade as am entitled to do so under the agreement about the rock I can’t comment as I do not know much as for international law the Lausane agreement that was Not signed freely by Turkey but as a defeated nation after WW1, now Do You think its fair for Turkey to have No rights to the sea cause of few small islands given to Greece after WW1? play a game of what politics or fairness? i am hopping for peace but peace means also seen the other side’s point of view, as for Cyprus it was Never sold to Britain by Turkey only leased but after ww1 when Turkey sided with Germany it was annexed by Britain for this reason alone n its many more I wished the British where still ruling Cyprus
@polygamous1 Sozou Just to be clear, by rock I’m refferi g to the island of Imia. Firstly since Turkey cannot accept international law it must pay efforts to change it, not to show how well equipped (or not ) her military is, because as of the last weeks she is truly alone and diplomatically weak. As of Cyprus no-one I believe it should and is fair to be an autonomous unified state. Not under Turkish or British or even Greek control, even if the majority of its population are technically of Greek origin.
@polygamous1 Sozou If you look at the black sea EEZ map you will see that Although Turkey does not have the largest coastline (ukraine does) uses the UNCLOS because it gets HALF of the black sea as EEZ while the rest of the countries get to share the other half…So no there is no such thing as fair…Turkey uses the UN laws and the rights givem to them by their geographical position but refuse their neighbours the same treatment by threatening war…
TÜRKİYE davasında haklı ve hakkını söke söke alacak bunu zaman gösterecek …85 milyon insan böyle düşünüyor ve destekliyor….
Neden 85 milyon yazdın ? Mesela biz Kürtler farklı düşünüyoruz bizi çıkar 🙂
@Kyaxares Median TÜRKİYE cumhuriyetini kuran halk,a TÜRK milleti denir …bunun içinde kürt , laz, çeçen, arap, boşnak, arnavut,ermeni, vs.vs. hepsi var..
@Hakan kadına kadın erkeğe erkek denir . Sonra isimleri kendi içinde değişir. Sen erkeğe kadın diyemezsiniz
@Hakan Anadolu, Akdeniz , Karadeniz , Afrika,Amerika gibi coğrafik isime dayalı bir kimlik tanımı yok. Olmadığı içinde bu devlet uzun yaşamaz. ataturkun vizyonsuz oluşunun sonuçları bunlar. Kaldı ki senin yaptığın tanım , bilime , antropolojiye, ve tarihi verilere aykırı. türkler çekik gözlü orta asyalı bir ırktır. Ermeniler ve Kürtler Hint avrupalidir.
Genleri farklı olsa da turklukle uzaktan yakından alakası yoktur
@Kyaxares Median tam adamına çattın …ben,de orjinal bir laz,ım benimde dilim var anlattığın kadar derine inmeye gerek yok ,cuma,lazcada kardeş demek…dedem kurtuluş savaşında mücadele etti ve TÜRKİYE cumhuriyetinin kurulmasında az da olsa emeği var ,biz anadolu haklları olarak birbirimizi tutarsak bu topraklarda var oluruz yoksa yok olur gideriz..bize emperyal devletlerden fayda yok ..konu uzun sabaha kadar yazarız…sağlıkla kal…
turkey won’t be bullied. and will also come up on top. just like the greeks killed the Turkish Cypriots
Dreams are free
@ioannis I Mansola same to you as well.
@TheBagarali denial about the genocide of armenians and greek pontiacs doesnt change the fact either.
@Mihalaras11 can you stand behind your words and prove them ?
Turks also killed Greek Cypriots
Europe will be in chaos once the leftist governments and EU collapses.. and yes far right is working its best for the situation to come true
No. Far right is bad I think that you can understand also that you don’t need a far right government to throw the Turks out
@Αργυρης Καλογηρατος whatever you think, once the far right people come into power, the next thing will be the end of EU, then the games of Geopolitics kick in and skirmishes start
@channelcyclopedia 92 I genuinely didn’t understand your comment. Now I understood what you meant but still what leftist governments everyone is capitalist right dude
@Αργυρης Καλογηρατος what?
@channelcyclopedia 92 what what?
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Hahahha best dream ever🐜
Erdogan is a puppet.. The muslim brotherhood wnats to establish a new califat.. Why they sent troops in lybia? Why they have troops in syria? Even in somalia.. They are funde from qatarian headquarters..
Yes they want oil, gas..
But you have to se the bigger picture here..
And what ist it wiht Agia Sofia.. A mosque.. Rwally?
This person wants to feel like he is an emperor of the ottoman empire..
But not this time..
His head will roll..
And whoever wants land from greece..
I wanna say to him..
Molon labe..
Come and get them..
Cyprus should be partitioned like Korea. The best solution.
Egypt may well face a revival of the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan would support it. Why not? Egypt might well ally with Turkey if MB is successful. Turkey’s claim is just as good as the rest of the crooked governments and no less opportunistic.
Full support turkey🇹🇷
Go ahead Turkey 🇹🇷, you found the gas. Its yours now
France 🇫🇷 just Yell for USA 🇺🇸 to help U.
And we will bring Russian Nuclear Head and Our Nuclear Heads Near to Europe where all Europeans can see their death.
Because we are Turkeys we don’t Care to die with our point that’s what (Jihad) is created.
turkey occupaied many lands and if turkey has power he wont be shame do a dirty work , turkey not trustwhorty country
Who is trustworthy country? USA? Russia? Germany? France? 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃
F king lair
@ 2:48 they (Turks) do not mean the island of Cyprus, Turks say that Meis/Kastellorizo island can’t possibly have the EEZ of 200 nm and this of course applies to some other Aegean islands. That’s where an amendment to convention on the law of the sea is required.
Edit: Kastellorizo island which is an greek island can’t have EEZ of 200 nm because it is just 1,13nm (2,1 km) offshore the Turkish mainland.
Well said Lütfullah. When you apply the law of the sea to the islands closest to Turkey, 1: literally it goes well over 300km inland into turkish soil. 2: The law also can apply to Turkey as it also has the right. Does not make any sense. Hypocrisy at its finest; typical western politics…Patting each other on the back with one hand whilst stealing with the other…
@Rlee79 Either you are completely dumb or pretending like one. The zones are divided in half when landmasses of different nations are close.
According to the Turkish-Libya deal Not only Kastellorizo but Crete, Rhodes, Carpathos and all the islands between them and behind them don’t have an EEZ. Actually not even the Greek mainland doesn’t have an EEZ. So they (Turks) completely deny the rights of Greece to an EEZ.
@Leon Trotsky
Wow…This conversation string is over a month old…Your a little late and missed everything…
If you read my comment properly, I suppose you also missed the sarcasm….You said it, land masses are divided in half when nations are close, which makes, Greece’s claim of sea, illegal……..True?
@Rlee79 ooooo yes I read it in a different way and it all makes sense now. Anyways have a nice day
What and who is so call international community colonialism or new nice people tell as what you mean by international community
15.147 Hellenic shore –
7.200 Turkey shore.
Also part of turkeys shore is in Marmara Sea its a different sea from mediterranean.
Actualy in shore lines Hellas is No 9 in the world and turkey is No 17 so …
Propaganda and lies what you are best in.
Keep educate your self from Turk media.
For who ever say Turkey has the longest shore.
Just educate your selfs properly plz (Information is free to most coundries 😎) you emparesing your self and show to the rest of the world how vulnerable you are in turkish lies and propaganda.
Turkye right Cyprus near 80 klm.Greece 300 klm
Feels like a pagan speaking on behalf of USA.
Un* and every state in the world*
Turkey are smart and they did what they had to do nato was gonna steal there .recources and the turks didn’t turn the other cheek whilst Greece bealive in turning the other cheek
1 no evidence to support what you say 2 your economy is being devastated but you seem to believe that everything is ok
If you need to have a Greek version of what’s happening in the EastMed. this it and no Greek news channel could even do it this well with their current financial crisis.
It’s time Aljazeera English to present out views and interests and not of those who against our brothers in Turkey.
Wait till our petition to HH Sheik Tamim is presented to him.
You will not use our money against us anymore….!!!!!! 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
And Arabs will always stand by their masters zoinists
We know WHY France is there, not for the benefits of GREECE or any other country, to have one of the biggest slime of the CAKE, even having no coast, boarder in there…SAME for all western countries, THEY always say THEY are right but ALL we know the truth, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EAST MED. , actually NORTH of EAST MED. Where Cyprus is in the middle, Where Greece has only Mias Island which has only 10Km2 landsize and has only 2km shore and Turkey has about 1800km shore. SEEING THE MAP would help you to understand if you had eyes which can actually see…
The USA did not sign it either!
Very biased and one sided comentary.
The Great Turks must be respected appropriately if no recognition by Greece, Turkish military actions must be practiced and areas captured by force
. jamshed_kharian_pak
War clouds are gathering it seems.
Greece always like to play victim while doing real offence in all areas. They were nearly killing all cyrpiot turks before conflict if Turkey did not saved them. France has no border in eastmed but has right to put his nose to everywhere but Turkey is agressor just because trying to keep see routes open. This channel is owned by UAE and far from objective even the newsman is Greek. I hate western agression shown as humanity and democracy but imperialism in reality. If Greek people love to spend their money to armament rather than health and education there will be always earners like France and Germany from this conflict.
It’s the jihadist state of turkey. Simply…
Erdogan wants war against Greece: “Speaking at the opening of a hospital in Goztepe, the Turkish president said that “they will understand that Turkey has the economic and military power to tear down the immoral maps and documents imposed on it.”
“Either they will understand with the political and diplomatic language or with the bitter experience they will have on the battlefield. As Turkey and as a Turkish nation, we are ready for every possibility and every result. “We declare on every platform, in every meeting, in every message that we are ready for any sharing provided it is fair,” said the Turkish President.”
Λαθρό International law???? Which international law is that you have mentioned?
@Λαθρό
So if Turkey wants war your telling me Greece doesnt? The only reason why the Greeks are making noise is because the French are behind them. The French will not die for your cause, they want a huge slice of the cake! They will come there, enjoy the warm waters, hot sun, then go…But Greece will be there, alone….
We do not need France per se. Since France wants to help then our french brothers are more than welcome to join the party! the more the merrier!!! we are all a big European family!@Rlee79
@Emre ÇOM here it is…
United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)
i.e. Article 7
Straight baselines
1.
In localities where the coastline is deeply indented and cut into, or if there is a fringe of islands along the coast in its immediate vicinity, the method of straight baselines joining appropriate points may be employed in drawing the baseline from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured.
@Λαθρό
Fair enough. But the French want those resources, at the cost of greek funds and lives. They dont have a coastline to the area. They will be there today, but gone tomorrow. Who helped greece her hardest economic disaster?
TO PARAPHRASE DONALD RUMSFELD:
“It’s a pity that God put Turkey’s oil under other people’s land and water”
TERRITORIAL WATERS:
Why is Turkey describing the possibility of Greece extending its Territorial Waters in the Aegean to 12nm as “casus belli” when Turkey has already done exactly that in the Black Sea?
EXCLUSIVE ECONOMIC ZONE OF THE GREEK ISLAND OF KASTELORIZO:
Turkey says that Kastelorizo is so far away from mainland Greece and so close to the Turkish mainland that it should not have an ‘EEZ’ in favour of Greece… that it should in essence disclaim its Greek sovereignty. Applying the same logic to Copenhagen, one could argue that the Swedish sovereignty of the capital of Sweden could be disputed because it happens to be located on the mainland of Denmark! LOL!
Kastelorizo is an island and Stockholm has land connection those comparation doesnt make sense turkey says you cannot add islands eez land to mainland eez if greek claims are right then britain can claim whole atlantic ocean due* to farkland islands in front of the argentina which is stupit
@Nurullah gürbüzer I challenge anyone to point out the phrase “territorial waters” in the text of the Lausanne Treaty. Nowhere. The purpose of the treaty was not to define territorial waters; it was to define the sovereign BORDERS of the modern Turkish Republic. Article 12 of the treaty clearly states “Except where a provision to the contrary is contained in the present, the islands situated at less than three miles from the Asiatic coast remain under Turkish sovereignty.” This has nothing to do with territorial waters. Following the unification of the Dodecanese (which btw include Kastelorizo!) with Greece in 1947 with the Peace Treaty with Italy, the vast majority of the Aegean islands became part of the sovereign Greek state. As sovereign Greek islands they have every right to declare a 12nm territorial water zone around them as is clearly set out in the far more recent UNCLOS of 1982. Turkey understands this principle very well in the Black Sea; it has done the same there. *First* came the sovereignty of the islands *then* the territorial waters. Please do not ‘conveniently’ mix the 2.
@Nurullah gürbüzer I challenge anyone to look at the map and find a “land connection” between Copenhagen and the rest of Sweden. I hope everyone understands the difference between the GEOGRAPHICAL connection of 2 pieces of mainland with a… man-made bridge… For Kastelorizo, Greece is talking in LEGAL terms and Turkey is basing its argument partly on GEOGRAPHICAL terms. Therefore I wish to repeat my question: Should the fact that a *tiny* portion of Sweden sits on a piece of land which belongs to the mainland of Denmark have any effect on its sovereignty? The answer is obviously NO! Kastelorizo isn’t even touching the Turkish mainland and is as Greek as any of the other Aegean islands irrespective of its location.
@Zisis Karampaglidis why you need a connection between copenhagen and sweeden it is belong to denmark Stockholm is belong to sweeden and has land connection
@Zisis Karampaglidis well i challence you back to find a land connection between moscow and Washington you have no idea what you are talking about
We will beat all of them again. İf you trust your heart come and get it.
GREECE WANTS TO STEAL MARITIME ZONE OF TURKEY IN EAST MEDITERRENEAN SEA!! TURKEY WANTS TO DEFEND MARITIME ZONE!! TURKEY DOES NOT HAVE AN AIM TO INVADE THESE ISLANDS. GREECE WANTS TO PREVENT OIL RESEARCH OF TURKEY, CLAIMING THAT EASTERN MEDITERRENEAN BELONGS TO GREECE!!! JUST LOOK AT THE MAP, TURKEY HAS A CONTINENTAL SHELF AND HAS RIGHT TO RESEACH OIL IN ITS OWN MARITIME ZONE.
Turkey should be out of buissnes of greece cypress low life crook turkey erdoran need menthol help Putin teach erdoran to behavior trouble looking low life stay in Ankara own buissnes only dark days is coming no guarantee erdoran in power can be replace very easy today friend enemy of tomorrow fake leader between Armenians Israel USA teach you a lesson erdoran
Qatar making a video report on a huge oil ga reserve in the Mediterranean. I guess it is veeeeeery objective because….. it has a British journalist narrating it… solid argument…
“…Turkey is feeling diplomatically isolated…”; gee… wonder why? (not)
Tbh I don’t see how greece can claim sea on Turkey’s side? Whats not yours you cannot claim simple as that
Greece has a number of small islands off Turkey coast and yet having bigger rights….expect Turkey to agree?…Only a fool will do.A biased international law!Turkey is not a signatory.
*The Devil called Zionist Erdogan*
The arrogance of Greece will be it’s downfall. It’s time for Turkey to take what is rightfully theirs!
Do you think Turkey will give there ZZE 370km sea zone, don’t be ridiculous. Reminder this is calculated from continent not island.
They don’t want Israel to have gas
You take away the glass from Israel the US will come to Israel’s side.
Turkey won’t hesitate for defending its rights….b
Turkey has no righ5s
@Veriox22 2 While Turkey has 1700km sea border with Mediterranean Sea nobody can’t decide about our right dear. We knows our rights and interest very well… İf someone try to steal our rights we can destroy them easily…
Stand by 🇹🇷 100%. Europe has exploited the rest of world and robbed other countries of their resources for centuries. 🇹🇷 gets to keep what is rightfully theirs.
So Turks dont agree about INTERNATIONAL law like the whole world is and just has its iwn theory. Thats called bullshit and bully. Turkey is wrong . They should nuke it and get done with that cancer country full of genocides and 0 contribution to the world
Long live TURKEY
Long live RECEP TAYYAP ERDUGAN
No more GREECE influence
No more ISRAEL terrorism
If any adventure happens surely TURKEY will teach them lesson very well and GREECE, ISRAEL and France will face consciences
This is nothing but Zionist and European propaganda, the reason the wars in Syria and Iraq and Libya was done for these resources. But this time you have come stuck on a very hard rock called Turkey with a huge army and weapons that is defending their territorial waters, Greece is on the other side of the agean so is italy and what’s france doing or Israel. Cyprus belongs to the ottoman state and was leased to the brits which always mess things up before they leave. I.e Hong Kong, Kashmir and Falklands. So do not try to tell me what’s yours. You will suffer greatly Europe.
Is anybody in this section Egyptian?
“Go it alone ‘attitude'”? What else would a sovereign nation do?
Time to make Cypris Kibris !
I want to see you try. You will swim like you always done.
Turkey will get what they want. Economic wise army and now producing weapon with out depending on anyone. They are more stronger. Greeks are depending on other countries.
From Bangladesh we are ready to fight for Turkey’s right love for Erdogan love for Turkey 🇧🇩🇹🇷
“Under the mattress”: Turks hide huge amounts of gold for fear of pound collapse
I doubt that most people in Turkey barelly make the month cause of Erdoclown
according to international maritime law, islands far from the mainland do not have exclusive economic zones. Greece is demanding a huge area for a small island at the bottom of Turkey, which is unfair.
Then how about archipelago nation who doesn’t have main island like indonesia? I am from indonesia and we still set our small outer islands as benchmark to make eez, some of them have distance from nearest big islands further than the distance from greek mainland to kreta
@Let
For island states, the situation is different. But Greece has a mainland and cannot claim a huge space for a very small island. Turkey is a country with the longest coastline in the Mediterranean. It is unfair and illegal to try to give Turkey such a small space
why dont you tell the people that greece has a 2×2 km small island more than 200 miles away and with that small island trying to own 40.000km² of turkish seacoast ?
The subject is the issue of which countries exist and how much in the East Mediterranean. Anyone looking at the map can easily see. .The mainland of Greece is a land country with a Aegean sea on one side and an Ionian Sea on the other. In addition, Greece’s 3-4 islands, including the island of Crete and Rhodes, are at the exit of the Aegean Sea.
There is also the island of Meis, which is a part of Greece. This island is 10 square kilometers wide; 2 kilometers from the coast of Turkey. It is 500 km from Greece. About 500 people live on it.
Turkey fully in the Eastern Mediterranean, 783 562 square kilometers, 85 million people live in the area. Turkey has 1577 kilometers of coastline in the Mediterranean.
The problem between the two states is this:
Greece states that the islands are territorial waters and continental shelf and defends that they have the right to EEZ.
Turkey has the right to territorial waters of the island. However, these are not continents. These are islands. Islands do not have a continental shelf. Therefore, he says the islands do not have the right to EEZ.
Greece’s claim: Although the island of Kastellorizo is 10 square kilometers, the EEZ right is 40,000 square kilometers.
Turkey’s claim: This is nonsense. And it’s illegal.
An example of the application in the world:
Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney, Sark, Herm and Jethou Islands, which are located in the English Channel between England and France, have been under the control of England since 1066 with a population of approximately 170,000.
The problem of the continental shelf of the islands, which brought France and England against each other due to the oil deposits in the region, could only be resolved in court.
In the court, Britain argued that the size of the island s does not matter, just as Greece does today, and that the sea border with France should be determined by taking this into account.
France, on the other hand, stated that Britain’s demand for equidistant borders based on the islands would reduce the French continental shelf in favor of Britain, and that this claim was completely disproportionate to the size of the islands and the length of their coasts.
Defending that the equidistant border would divide its continental shelf into 2 separate regions, France suggested that the borders of the Channel Islands, territorial waters and the continental shelf should be determined as 6 miles, 3 miles each.
Announcing its decision on June 30, 1977, the court ruled mostly in favor of France. Deciding that the line between the two sides should be drawn from the middle of the English Channel from the mainland, the court restricted the continental shelf of the Channel Islands to 12 miles. The court thus concluded that the islands would not be a continental shelf larger than 12 miles, while France was also able to maintain its continental shelf.
France, despite this decision is in favor of today, Turkey 2, while Greece 582 kilometers from the island of Meis of size with a disproportionate continental shelf that Athens supports the lead time with, defending it for years to England and international courts largely accepted contradicts the theses submitted.
Where the UN when Israel illegally occupied Palestine??
Turkey will fairly dominate the region soon; World should be happy and satisfied.
First, you did not understand some of my statements. So, read again before making assumption
1) _”it is easy for the one who loses a war”_
The Ottoman Empire lost the World War I. So, you are in the same predicament that those “who loses a war”
2) _”call it genocide in the aftermath” “It was not a genocide”_
I remind you I wrote _”some would say”_
There are differences in-between
a) wining a war,
b) doing massacres, and
c) *systematically* annihilating a whole population for ethnic reason (genocide)
In the Armenian case, there are clear and well documented evidences of genocide: transportation of population by trains to be massacred, centers of mass execution, number of people massacred
You would remark that we do not talk about genocide about the Greeks or each time a nation loses a war
3) _”began killing mass numbers of Turks first”
What are your sources?
And OK, let us compare the number of casualties on Turkish and Armenian sides.
4) _”Ottomans Empire was not a salad on the table”_
_”Salad Bowl”_ is an English expression that means it was a mix of ethnicities.
It originally applied to the United States.
Please check Salad bowl (cultural idea) on Wikipedia before making assumption
5) _”It was a Turkish Empire”_
Not quite. The Ottoman Empire was a multi-ethnic especially at its peak (17c).
6) _”ruled the world for a quite long time”_
No, it never ruled the world.
7) _”Turks have been here for a thousand years”_
There are remnants of civilizations in Asia minor dating from thousand years.
But these people were Hattians, Hurrians, Assyrian, Hittite, Cimmerian, Scythian, and Greek.
They were Hellenized. They were NOT Turk.
The Turk arrived in Anatolia decades after the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, and “Turkisation” started in the 13c.
I beg you to check “Anatolia” on Wikipedia.
So no, the Turks have been there for less than a millennium. So, forget “thousand years”
8) _”Because Greeks really don’t know history”_
You are not in position to say that considering you just made numerous obvious mistakes about the history of your own country (see above)
9) _”It was a Turkish lake and Turkish land before Greeks ever existed in human history”_
No, it was not. See point 7
*By the way using your argument,
Since Greeks were in Anatolia before the Turks do you think Greeks should get all Asia Minor?
Istanbul was called Constantinople WAY BEFORE the Turk arrived.
*
@Particulier VDM please read my answers in >>> below.
First, you did not understand some of my statements. So, read again before making assumption
>>> Actually, I don’t agree with you. Its obvious that I have clearly understood your statements and embedded messages in them; e.g. “massacre word hidden behind ‘some would say genocide’ statement proves I was right and clear in understanding you.
1) “it is easy for the one who loses a war” The Ottoman Empire lost the World War I. So, you are in the same predicament that those “who loses a war” 2) “call it genocide in the aftermath” “It was not a genocide” I remind you I wrote “some would say” There are differences in-between a) wining a war, b) doing massacres, and c) systematically annihilating a whole population for ethnic reason (genocide) In the Armenian case, there are clear and well documented evidences of genocide: transportation of population by trains to be massacred, centers of mass execution, number of people massacred You would remark that we do not talk about genocide about the Greeks or each time a nation loses a war
>>> We all know that there are Greek ethnic groups everywhere claiming they were also genocided by Turks but as it is another fiction World did not buy it. Actually, its not a reference if the World buys or not, but there are so many groundless allegations and claims everywhere just as Armenian one and the Greek one.
3) _”began killing mass numbers of Turks first” What are your sources? And OK, let us compare the number of casualties on Turkish and Armenian sides.
>>> I repeat the absolute truth: When one loses, she start saying she was genocided – this is a typical behaviour of the Western & the church. Ideologic, false, nonsense, far from reality, just a fiction.Think about it this way: The power of your ideologies will not make the World flat. You all generate groundless false claims all the time and no matter how long it stays in the literature of history, it will fade away someday for its a lie! Turks did NOT make genocide to anyone, and the World is NOT flat. Am I clear in my point? Referring to comparison by numbers, the loss of Turks is NOT less than 260K in the initial stage and this is well documented in the archives which you never want to see. In the next stage, Armenians paid it in around 250K. There is no figure like 1,5 mio – because there no such an Armenian population within the territories of the Empire. The last census records prove the total population of Armenians were less than 1 mio. So where the remaining 500K? Can you say for example, there are 15 million Greeks in Greece today? Normally no, you cannot. So how come you claim – even without inspecting any of the original archives – that there were 1,5 mio Armenian population in Ottoman Empire lands?
[An update: The remaining of those armenians are the majority of the Kurdish peoples today in Southeastern Anatolia. So those LOST ARMENIANS of the past are PKK terrorist of TODAY. They were NOT genocided, they changed and hid their original identities under the Kurdish minority.]
4) “Ottomans Empire was not a salad on the table” “Salad Bowl” is an English expression that means it was a mix of ethnicities. It originally applied to the United States. Please check Salad bowl (cultural idea) on Wikipedia before making assumption 5) “It was a Turkish Empire” Not quite. The Ottoman Empire was a multi-ethnic especially at its peak (17c). 6) “ruled the world for a quite long time” No, it never ruled the world.
>>> I am a professional English, Italian & Turkish translator since 1995. I have been running a multilingual translation company ever since – Allingus Translation Services Co. Ltd. Thanks for your unnecessary linguistic comments but they are not needed here. Ottoman Empire was not a salad on the table as you put it. It was always a Turkish Empire, established and ruled by Turk sultans. Any empire is multethnicity in its nature, do you need dictionary definition? Empires are not empires for the size of their landmass. Empires are empires for they rule over and govern on multiethnicity. But it does not make British or Spanish Empire different than Ottoman TURK Empire. Can you say, British Empire was Hindu and African at its peak? Nonsense again and again.
7) “Turks have been here for a thousand years” There are remnants of civilizations in Asia minor dating from thousand years. But these people were Hattians, Hurrians, Assyrian, Hittite, Cimmerian, Scythian, and Greek. They were Hellenized. They were NOT Turk. The Turk arrived in Anatolia decades after the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, and “Turkisation” started in the 13c. I beg you to check “Anatolia” on Wikipedia. So no, the Turks have been there for less than a millennium. So, forget “thousand years”
>>> This is why you force me to agree with Erdogan whom I don’t like at all. You legitimatize his accusations on you yourself. Do you really think the whole world believes in your one-sided story of history? Please answer me honestly! Do you, yourself, really believe the habitat and development and and consequences of the Punic Wars were truly original as Romans told? Even if you were a very young child and were told such a tale, you would still ask so many questions where in fact you seem to be NOT a child – do you NOT ask any questions about Carthaginians, Phoenicians, C’naans, Lydians, Troians? Do you really believe in Wikipedia fabrications on history? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE CENTIMETRE as a measurement unit was first invented by the French? Oh, come on! Please say “NO”! Actually my questions are NOT to yourself directly, but you should read them as: “DO YOU REALLY THINK THE WHOLE WORLD IS BELIEVING SUCH STUPID LIES OF THE WESTERN IDEOLOGIES?” They are all lies and you are deeply conned by your own rules to a world of lies. So, yes! Erdogan is actually correct on his comment about your education level. I do NOT like him for many reasons but it doesn’t change the facts.
8) “Because Greeks really don’t know history” You are not in position to say that considering you just made numerous obvious mistakes about the history of your own country (see above) 9) “It was a Turkish lake and Turkish land before Greeks ever existed in human history” No, it was not. See point 7
>>> All Greek lands today belonged to its original inhabitants until roaming nomad Greek tribes from the North arrived to Minoan, Mycenaean, Pelasgian lands. For several hundred years, Greek men was primitive and served to his landlord, the TURS, TURANIANS. And he, the Greek men, finally developed from primitive to modern some 2.5 K years ago. He owes his existence and everything to his former landlord, to the TURANIAN CIVILIZATION. But your ancestors were terribly ungrateful peoples and they did something terrible; they changed, altered, alienated the true original NAMES, TITLES and WORDS of the past into something unknown and forgotten peoples. You don’t need to feel offended reading these lines, and I assure you that its NOT my intention. You need to read and learn true history of MANKIND.
*By the way using your argument,
Since Greeks were in Anatolia before the Turks do you think Greeks should get all Asia Minor? Istanbul was called Constantinople WAY BEFORE the Turk arrived.
>>> Its the other way. It was OUR LAND long before you ever existed in history.
@Kamil Kartal I am not Greek. I am from South Korea.
I was seriously about to take the time to answer you. Actually, I spent quite some time to answer you the first time…
I wanted to debate with you in the most respectful way possible and at least understand your perspective.
But there are so many facts that are wrong and logical flaws in this comment that I cannot even untangle/unpack it.
We do not even share a set of basic facts, and thus any debate is impossible.
Honestly, the further I read you comment the more I think you have been consumed by Turkish ultranationalism and its propaganda.
Now, I know what Greek people must face and feel for them.
My only advice is: Try to diversify your information sources.
I genuinely wish you the best for you, your family, and your people.
@Particulier VDM, I am not a seer and cannot judge on your national identity over a nickname. “Particulier VDM” is a hidden name which means nothing about your original identity. But under this hidden identity, and after all one-sided arbitrary verbosity about the Eastern Mediterranean issue, you have now disclosed that you are NOT a Greekman but a South Korean. Compared to my open, accessible and true Turkish identity, you are now in a very shady position and one can never be sure about your true nationality, even if you place all details of your identity on the table. You will be a unreliable, untrustable ghost.
To help you better understand your shady case, imagine that I had a nickname with a hidden identity and talked for the Turkish side giving a certain impression that I am a Turk, misleading you all the way but at the end saying I am a Scott – what would you think? Would you believe my words?
Honestly speaking, I am not sure about your national identity. Not necessarily you are a Greekman but I don’t think you are a South Korean. There is something wrong with your case. You caused suspicion about yourself and you lost credibility, honesty and sincerity of your words now.
Its NOT you who spent a lot of time and effort on this communication, only! So you don’t need to magnify yourself.
Its NOT you who respected to his respondent, only! You don’t need to despise and overlook your counterpart.
I have given reasonable and sound arguments but you keep on playing around the words. You said massacre. You said genocide. You said Armenian. You said ultranationalism. You said several other irrelevant words that have nothing to do with topic on table. You sound like very much Greek, actually 😀
Please don’t answer my reply message and find yourself a better kindergarten. Thanks anyway.
@Kamil Kartal If you read my messages carefully, I wrote that both have legitimate claims.
But as soon I slightly disagree with you, you assumed that I was Greek.
Before your answer I never said I was pro-Greek.
Actually, I was leaning more toward Turkey as I have some attachment to it.
I realize this discussion is impossible when you said nonsense like:
– “The remaining of those Armenians are the majority of the Kurdish peoples today” or
– That the Turk were in Anatolia before the Greek…
As said, Turkey have some legitimate claims, but this kind of discourse and tone will not help.
I did not want to “magnify” anything especially not myself.
I am genuinely sorry If I made you lose your time.
Believe it or not, I wish you well.
Turkey has the longest coastline in Eastern Mediterranean (1792 km)
I am alone banned france rest of Asian soils immediately
With this kind of mindset some may call for the ban of any Muslim in Europe…
Cool down.
If there is oil this oil build up from Turkey soils
If there is soil in this our water belongs from Turkey no one other have the right over our water
Turkey don’t fear nothing but Allah. Fight for what’s yours only don’t get bullied by mafi goverment.. your doing good jobs… hi d bless you you turkey
Turkey needs to be taught a Lesson by all of them (Greece, Cyprus, France, Italy, all of the EU, the UN, Israel, Egypt). The EU should block or embargo against Turkey. Turkey is ISOLATED because of EVIL Erdogan (who thinks and acts as an Ottoman Sultanate) in the 21st century and his EVIL motives and movements. Turkey has been at odds with Greece, Israel, Russia, France, Egypt, ..etc. It reveals to the world that the problem is in their own side.
Right can not given, it is taken. Turkey will take its right in a diplomatic ways or by force.
Islam is a barbourous faith that’s including the nations and the people who follow that religion..
Says the non muslim.
Turkey is Russian proxy
Jack Dolah we are no ones proxy..
aer yil yeah… Tell that to your president
Greece is small and bankrupted country.
It shouldn’t play with fire.
@Particulier VDM please read my answers in >>> below.
First, you did not understand some of my statements. So, read again before making assumption
>>> Actually, I don’t agree with you. Its obvious that I have clearly understood your statements and embedded messages in them; e.g. “massacre word hidden behind ‘some would say genocide’ statement proves I was right and clear in understanding you.
1) “it is easy for the one who loses a war” The Ottoman Empire lost the World War I. So, you are in the same predicament that those “who loses a war” 2) “call it genocide in the aftermath” “It was not a genocide” I remind you I wrote “some would say” There are differences in-between a) wining a war, b) doing massacres, and c) systematically annihilating a whole population for ethnic reason (genocide) In the Armenian case, there are clear and well documented evidences of genocide: transportation of population by trains to be massacred, centers of mass execution, number of people massacred You would remark that we do not talk about genocide about the Greeks or each time a nation loses a war
>>> We all know that there are Greek ethnic groups everywhere claiming they were also genocided by Turks but as it is another fiction World did not buy it. Actually, its not a reference if the World buys or not, but there are so many groundless allegations and claims everywhere just as Armenian one and the Greek one.
3) _”began killing mass numbers of Turks first” What are your sources? And OK, let us compare the number of casualties on Turkish and Armenian sides.
>>> I repeat the absolute truth: When one loses, she start saying she was genocided – this is a typical behaviour of the Western & the church. Ideologic, false, nonsense, far from reality, just a fiction. Think about it this way: The power of your ideologies will not make the World flat. You all generate groundless false claims all the time and no matter how long it stays in the literature of history, it will fade away someday for its a lie! Turks did NOT make genocide to anyone, and the World is NOT flat. Am I clear in my point? Referring to comparison by numbers, the loss of Turks is NOT less than 260K in the initial stage and this is well documented in the archives which you never want to see. In the next stage, Armenians paid it in around 250K. There is no figure like 1,5 mio – because there no such an Armenian population within the territories of the Empire. The last census records prove the total population of Armenians were less than 1 mio. So where the remaining 500K? Can you say for example, there are 15 million Greeks in Greece today? Normally no, you cannot. So how come you claim – even without inspecting any of the original archives – that there were 1,5 mio Armenian population in Ottoman Empire lands?
[An update: The remaining of those armenians are the majority of the Kurdish peoples today in Southeastern Anatolia. So those LOST ARMENIANS of the past are PKK terrorist of TODAY. They were NOT genocided, they changed and hid their original identities under the Kurdish minority.]
4) “Ottomans Empire was not a salad on the table” “Salad Bowl” is an English expression that means it was a mix of ethnicities. It originally applied to the United States. Please check Salad bowl (cultural idea) on Wikipedia before making assumption 5) “It was a Turkish Empire” Not quite. The Ottoman Empire was a multi-ethnic especially at its peak (17c). 6) “ruled the world for a quite long time” No, it never ruled the world.
>>> I am a professional English, Italian & Turkish translator since 1995. I have been running a multilingual translation company ever since – Allingus Translation Services Co. Ltd. Thanks for your unnecessary linguistic comments but they are not needed here. Ottoman Empire was not a salad on the table as you put it. It was always a Turkish Empire, established and ruled by Turk sultans. Any empire is multethnicity in its nature, do you need dictionary definition? Empires are not empires for the size of their landmass. Empires are empires for they rule over and govern on multiethnicity. But it does not make British or Spanish Empire different than Ottoman TURK Empire. Can you say, British Empire was Hindu and African at its peak? Nonsense again and again.
7) “Turks have been here for a thousand years” There are remnants of civilizations in Asia minor dating from thousand years. But these people were Hattians, Hurrians, Assyrian, Hittite, Cimmerian, Scythian, and Greek. They were Hellenized. They were NOT Turk. The Turk arrived in Anatolia decades after the Battle of Manzikert in 1071, and “Turkisation” started in the 13c. I beg you to check “Anatolia” on Wikipedia. So no, the Turks have been there for less than a millennium. So, forget “thousand years”
>>> This is why you force me to agree with Erdogan whom I don’t like at all. You legitimatize his accusations on you yourself. Do you really think the whole world believes in your one-sided story of history? Please answer me honestly! Do you, yourself, really believe the habitat and development and and consequences of the Punic Wars were truly original as Romans told? Even if you were a very young child and were told such a tale, you would still ask so many questions where in fact you seem to be NOT a child – do you NOT ask any questions about Carthaginians, Phoenicians, C’naans, Lydians, Troians? Do you really believe in Wikipedia fabrications on history? DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE CENTIMETRE as a measurement unit was first invented by the French? Oh, come on! Please say “NO”! Actually my questions are NOT to yourself directly, but you should read them as: “DO YOU REALLY THINK THE WHOLE WORLD IS BELIEVING SUCH STUPID LIES OF THE WESTERN IDEOLOGIES?” They are all lies and you are deeply conned by your own rules to a world of lies. So, yes! Erdogan is actually correct on his comment about your education level. I do NOT like him for many reasons but it doesn’t change the facts.
8) “Because Greeks really don’t know history” You are not in position to say that considering you just made numerous obvious mistakes about the history of your own country (see above) 9) “It was a Turkish lake and Turkish land before Greeks ever existed in human history” No, it was not. See point 7
>>> All Greek lands today belonged to its original inhabitants until roaming nomad Greek tribes from the North arrived to Minoan, Mycenaean, Pelasgian lands. For several hundred years, Greek men was primitive and served to his landlord, the TURS, TURANIANS. And he, the Greek men, finally developed from primitive to modern some 2.5 K years ago. He owes his existence and everything to his former landlord, to the TURANIAN CIVILIZATION. But your ancestors were terribly ungrateful peoples and they did something terrible; they changed, altered, alienated the true original NAMES, TITLES and WORDS of the past into something unknown and forgotten peoples. You don’t need to feel offended reading these lines, and I assure you that its NOT my intention. You need to read and learn true history of MANKIND.
*By the way using your argument,
Since Greeks were in Anatolia before the Turks do you think Greeks should get all Asia Minor? Istanbul was called Constantinople WAY BEFORE the Turk arrived.
>>> Its the other way. It was OUR LAND long before you ever existed in history.
Abuse of Fundamental Human Rights What else;
Greece have makes problims to Turkey in every movement
In
I think there is should us democracy implementation in med sea all fish should give the vote and chose the elicited fish president and USA will be there alies
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Turkish imperialism…!!!
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The only witch rising is ottoman megalomania.
Written and presented by Alex Gatopoulos. He is a Greek. I guess it explains everything. Should be objective
siz hepiniz biz tek bebişler hadi bakalım.
we are with turkey viva
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